I don’t have an idea what Steven is talking about. But here is an example of how restructuring a trust could help in one instance.
Tom is director of Tommo Pty Ltd which is trustee of the Tombo Trust. Tommo Pty Ltd owns a property as trustee of the trust and the property is worth $500,000 at purchase with a loan of $400,000. After 5 years the property is now worth $1,000,000 and the Tom wants to cause the trust to purchase another property by accessing the equity and using this as a deposit.
But Tom had a dispute with a mobile phone company about large downloads and he refused to pay the bill. It went to court and Tom lost with the mobile company getting a judgment for $3000. Tom quickly paid the bill, but he now has a black mark on his credit file and he can no longer get finance at reasonable rates. This means the trust will no longer be able to get finance to access the equity or to buy a new property. Tom seeks legal advice and resigns as director of the Tommo Pty Ltd and his wife Mrs Tom becomes director. Mrs Tom is clean credit wise, and has good income so she can now provide personal guarantees for the existing loan, equity increase loan and new purchase loan. And the trust can now buy that new property.
So in Steve’s book (0-130 properties, revised edition) starting at page 172 he talks about how once he reaches his borrowing capacity he then re-structures his family trust and then approaches another lendor.
I read in another post that this is no longer possible?
Would another bank loan money if say the original trustee (e.g Trustee Company Pty Ltd) was sacked as trustee and another company was created and made trustee which in turn the directors would then be the guarantor/s? Therefore creating a new trust structure?
If the new company had the same directors the same problems would arise. You would also have trust assets owned by a non trustee which would cause other problems including possibly breach of existing mortgage agreements.
I don’t think directors are personally liable (in VIC), but the trustee company is. However it has a right of reimbursement out of the trust property, both under trust law and under land tax legislation. Don’t forget land tax is a first charge over the land – beats even mortgages.
Since each trust needs a separate tax return it shouldn’t make much different in fees for the tax return. A company as trustee has no income or expenses of its own so would be a nil return – maybe no return needed at all.
Being a director is a role, not property that can fall into the hands of creditors – but the shares of the company can. So it may be a good idea to change trustees asap.
first thing to do is to review the deed. Find out who has the power to change trustees. Often it will be the appointor, sometimes it may be an appointor and a protector other trusts it may be the trustee.
The deed must be followed strictly. If the apppointor is required to give written notification to the trustee then this must happen. Non delivery may mean the change is invalid. Even if the appoinntor is Bob and Bob is the sole director of the company Bob should send a regitered letter to himself for proof.
Legal advice should be sought, especially on the stamp duty side. In NSW there is generally no stamp duty or just $50 but there may be full duty if changing trustee means a change in the beneficiaries of the trust. Wording of the deed is important.
Any mortgages over trust property will need to be released and new loans and mortgages entered into by the new trustee. Its a major event.
And a trustee has fiduciary duties, but so does an appointor. so specialist legal advice would be a good idea before changing anything, especially if bankruptcy is looming. A bankrupt person cannot act as director, so a new director should be sought and new shareholders conisdered – a trustee of another trust perhaps. Also read the deed about what happens to the position of appointor if the appointor becomes bankrupt. In my deeds the appointor is removed automatically.
1. Harder to prove which assets belong to which trust.
2. Lenders may take a PPSR charge over the company so going to different lenders could result in a breach of the mortgage agreement.
ASIC fees are only $243 or so per year so having a second company is not such a big cost. No tax return should be needed as the company is not trading.
Legally speaking only if the trust terms allow it, otherwise a breach of trust.
Do you want the trustee to obtain a margin loan against the shares? (see if trustee is allowed to do this first) and then consider whether this is a good idea in terms of risk. If not talking about margin loans then perhaps you asking if the trustee can lend trust money? Again depends on the powers in the deed.
my opinion would be fully one of little to no capital growth. I’m trying to determine whether I’m going to cop capital gains tax on the villa based on the price increase since I paid for it in 2005. It was my primary place of residence up u
2 possiblities
1. could be totally exempt under s118-145
or
2. could be subject to CGT on the gain after you moved out under s118-192.
You could choose and may want to choose 2 if it will result in little to no tax as choosing 1 may make the current home is subject to CGT. Seek specific tax advcie.
If you sold yo would have around $100k cash. Using this on a PPOR will save you around $5000 pa in interest each year for the next 20-30 years. You might then be able to borrow to invest and get something with better capital growth prospects.
Perhaps just let this one pay itself off may be the ‘best’ option. As the LVR is about 50% it won’t be hurting serviceability too much.
Borrowing further against the property will make things messy in terms of working out who gets what. I have clients who do this and increase the loan and then use half each for further investments in own name. If you do this the borrowing capacity will be hurt – but it may be convenient to get your hands on more deposit money.
To my understanding a buyers agent does not take money off the buyer Jo.
They will do a split normally 50/50 or 60/40 depending on agreement on the commission structure with the sellers agent.