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Hi
I’ve seen a few cases of parents gifting or lending 20% deposits to the offspring! It does happen a bit, but these days some people are worried that if they don’t get into the property market soon, they may be priced out as prices rise. So it may be on the increase.
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Kay
You’re friend might be american? Rolling over of CGT is not allowable in Australia. Or maybe they were talking about selling the PPOR?
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Accountant Chris Batten has some stuff on superfunds and investment properties on his site:
http://www.chrisbatten.com.auComdom, offset accounts must be in the same names as the loan accounts.
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Kay
i agree with MH. sometimes bank valuations also come in higher. I had a client that purchased an established property and the bank valuation came in 20% higher than what they paid for it.
However, there is one lender that I know of that specifically orders a fire sale valutation to be done. This is a specialsied lender tho.
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Hi Akyboy
I have a client that has become a millionaire ‘overnight’ by doing something similar. Buy land with a deposit bond or a negotiated small deposit and then sit back and wait. This guys land has more than doubled in about 12 months-and he had many blocks.
Are you looking at an area near the coast? it seems anywhere on the coast is booming (but this doesn’t mean it will continue to).
At or near settlement you could sell a few blocks and or settle using loans based on valuation. if it has grown in price you could even get 100% finance.
In NSW I think stamp duty is payable within 3 months of exchange of contracts.
If you sold, the ATO treats a sale to have occurred when contracts are exchanged, so if you have a 12 months to settlement you may get the 50% discount on CGT.
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Hi Akyboy
I have a client that has become a millionaire ‘overnight’ by doing something similar. Buy land with a deposit bond or a negotiated small deposit and then sit back and wait. This guys land has more than doubled in about 12 months-and he had many blocks.
Are you looking at an area near the coast? it seems anywhere on the coast is booming (but this doesn’t mean it will continue to).
At or near settlement you could sell a few blocks and or settle using loans based on valuation. if it has grown in price you could even get 100% finance.
In NSW I think stamp duty is payable within 3 months of exchange of contracts.
If you sold, the ATO treats a sale to have occurred when contracts are exchanged, so if you have a 12 months to settlement you may get the 50% discount on CGT.
Terryw
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Most lenders will lend to trusts/companies. However, some won’t lend for trust/companies on the low doc loans-eg Suncorp and ING. You could still get these if you had a non corporate trustee and borrwed in individual names on behalf of the Trust.
Another potential problem is that recently some lenders are also requesting that if loans are in company names, then the company provide a fixed and floating charge to the bank as well-as extra security. This is a real pain in the arse if you already have a few properties in that company name.
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Adam
the bank will want to see the trust deed to make sure the trust is allowed to borrow etc. But since you will be guarranteeing the loan, you could apply in your name first-if you qualify the trust will. But you will have to submit another applicaiton later in the company/trust name.
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Hi
Yes LMi on the 100% lend would be around 2.5% of purchase price!
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two of my clients have recently reduced their rents to attract customers (in Sydney), it does seem that there has been a down turn in certain areas.
I got a good tip from Michael yardley’s newsletter. That is if you want to increase the rent by $10 per week, write a letter to the tenant saying rent will increase by $20, unless they have any objections. If they object, make it $10. They fell like they got a discount and are happy, and you get your rental increase. If they don;t object, you’ve got the full $20 increase.
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Hi Wen
I am not too keen on these sorts of properties, but…
That is a fairly high rental return. Since Steve’s book came out (and for other reasons) there have been a lot more people looking for these properties. A lot of people from Sydney and other cities are buying properties without seeing them based on rental yields. Since the area only had 3% growth last year, that could mean that town hasn’t been discovered yet and may boom, catching up to other areas. Or maybe you could buy for $55,000 and on sell for $70,000 -which would still give a yield of over 8% at current rent.
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Hi
These days lenders don’t like letting anyone guarrantee a loan unless they are on title. A better way of doing it would be for a parent or someone to use a LOC and lend you the money.Another strategy, if you don;t have much money you could try and lease option a property form someone and then on lease option it at a higher rent with a higher option fee. ie a sandwich lease option. easier said than done tho!
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I agree with Clithero on this. Imagine how a car loan would hurt your serviceability for getting more property loans. I really want a newish car too, but am trying really hard to resit the urge!
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Steven
i give up!
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Mel
Good point! cheap, simple and easy.
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ACTandy
Yes I am a mortgage broker, but I do not know anything about borrowing to invest in Property trusts. I assume it would be similar to borrowing for shares or a managed fund. The security is the shares themselves, so it would be just like a margin loan. probably a max of around 60% lend.
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I think bankruptcy stays on your CRAA credit file for 8 years. other things are 5 years. But you could check you file by getting a copy from Baycorp. http://www.baycorp.com.au
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Deborah,
I’m not sure. You are directing all of your income to the home loan, and then borrowing from a LOC to pay your interest bill. If you do not pay the LOC interest bill each month, then it would be capitalising of interest-which is what the court case is about. if you do pay your LOC interest every month, then there would be no point in using a LOC as you could just be paying the interest on the loan directly.
Does this make sense?
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It is a good idea, but the tax deductibility of the interest is in question. it is currently legal to claim the interest, however the tax office is currently fighting this in the courts with the hearing set down for Nov 7th. If they lose I assume the laws will just be changed to make it illegal.
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If you are going to market tot he public, you will need ASIC approval and must have a prospectus-costly.
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