That is what I tried to say. it is only going to cost another $1000 to set up a new trustee company so that the trading company is kept totally separate. The trust could then possibly hold teh shares in the trading company so all the profit could flow into the trust.
I guess you would be up for stamp duty on half of the 30% share that you are transferring and legal fees. Legal fees may be about $500 and the stamp duty owuld be about $1200.
I heard the word “Quantity Surveyor” tossed up every now and again, and didnt really take much notice, but after the recent discussion on this post i would like more info please.
1) Is it a standard thing to back date tax deductions
4 years if they find that u still had stuff to claim?
2) I didnt actually realise that they personally inspect the property. how long does the inspection take, what info will they need to know on the properties background before doing the inspection
3) if they charge between $300 and $1000 dollars per property, whats the price difference pay for? what do u get at the end of the inspection?
4) is the cost a tax deduction?
5) my accountant always claims some sort of deduction on the property i have for depreciation, will the QS do a better job at finding every cent that i can claim?
6) My portfolio has 5 properties, 3 houses, a villa and a unit, ranging in purchase price from $144k to $52 k 2 are in sydney, 1 in dubbo, 1 in bathurst, 1 in cowra. will it be hard, or cost more to get a QS the the reigonal parts of NSW? all properties are over 20 yrs old… some are renovated, some have been freshened up by myself… would the services of a QS still be worth my while?
Anyone recomend a QS that they are happy with???
Thanx for your help. all info apreciated
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Jason
If there are tax deductions that you have missed out on (for various reasons), then you can legall amend your tax returns for up to 4 years.
I don’t think they need to know much, you just send them out and they list all fittings and determine the value. It would help if you could give them some background. The whole thing should take about an hour.
There are many different companies. smome are more professional than others and charge accordingly. Some companies have been know to get things incorrect (eg Kitchen cupboards – are they part of the building or a fixture). The rules are changing all the time.
If you are audited and have only relied on your accountants estimates, then your claims will probably disallowed. Is he a qualified QS? Has he even seen the proeprty?
If you have many proeprties you may get a discount, but would have to use a big company (they may subcontract the work out in the country areas). I think it would still be worthwhile to give them a call and sus them out about your older ceahper properties.
I disagree that any profit is good. I personally would now only buy cashflow postive property if there is a high chance of growth.
$50 per week profit on a property that doesn’t go up is nothing. That equals $2500 per year.
These sorts of properties drain your loan serviceability by using all your deposits up – there is an opportunity cost as you could be earning much more elsewhere.
I think it is a very different market now than when Steve started out and when Ronulas bought that $30K property that has tripled in value.
Generally banks would like to see you working for at least 6 months in the same job. The larger you depost, the easier t gets tho. There are asset lends such as Larrelle mentioned at 65% LVR, but the rate starts off slightly higher. It will be harder for you guys as you have no other property (?) and have just entered teh country.
For a $1000 to setup a new company, it may be worth it. Some lenders will even refuse to lend to trading companies for the reasons you mentioned. You could still distribute income between trusts, which would allow you to use any losses from negative gearing property.
b) the other financial institution needs to “PUT THIS TROUGH AS A PAYMENT NOT A CASH ADVANCE” (exact wording of customer support personel).
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Am I all wrong?
Dan. Don’t forget the institution charing your credit card will be paying the fee, which is about 2.5% of the purchase. So they are unlikely to do this (for nothing anyway).
You probably hsould do it with an older house. Some companies guarrantee to save yuo more than there fee (www.depreciator.com.au I think). Cost varies from $300 to $1000. Some are better than others, so watch out.
You probably should get them to come out as soon as your purchase, but they can do it so you can claim and amend the last 4 years tax returns.
As a guide, one of my clients purhcase an older style unit (red brick type, no pool or elevator) and he was able to claim an extra $4000 per year! So well worth the effort.
Yes, they generally only want to take into account a low yield for rental income. You may find somethign giving you a 10% yield, but the lender may only take a 4% yield into account (and then only 80% of this). Bastards
Hi. The last time I looked at HSBC, they would only lend to an LVR of 70% for investment properties. They also are wanting to take a charge over the company (if the borrower is a company). Other than that, their serviceability model is not bad.
That is correct, they do not take into account negative gearing (like centrelink).
I think they have to do this as it would be easy for people to shrink their income down to $0 and avoid paying any support. I don’t know if using a trust/company is a way around it, but cenrelink want to treat assets owned by your trust as being your own if you control the trust.
Good point. I have read that if you are planning on becoming bankrupt and transfer your assets knowing this, then the bankruptcy court can overturn these transactions as the purose was to defeat creditors. But I think if you are just purchasing assets on behalf of the trust, then they are generally out of reach.
Some banks will allow second mortgages (Adelaide, Bankwest are two).
Don’t forget you have to show you can service the payments on the second mortgage as well as the first (or teh payments on a personal loan). Or you could use a credit card – some people do!
I am just guessing, but imagine a LVR of around 65% would be possible. You could possibly do it without any cash, but I have yet to find a lender that will not ask for personal guarrantees.
Also be aware that valuations on expensive properties can vary a lot.
The second mortgage is just like the first mortgage, but can only come after the first. ie if you go belly up, the first mortgage gets first go and your security property and then the second mortgagor can have their turn. it is more risky for this reason (= higher rates).
I beleive the bank would have to give their permission for a second mortgage to be lodged. Some lenders don’t care, while others won;t allow it.