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  • Profile photo of TerrywTerryw
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    There are a few people around that promote a similar strategy. it will work as long as you are not borrowing more than your portfolio is growing each year-say no more than 80% of growth. It is not a bad strategy, but very risky.

    There are also lenders out there that will lend to you based soley on the security value. So as long as you have equity, you can continue to get finance.

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    Yes you can control things to a certain degree. For starters you can put yourself down as the contact person, rather than an agent. that way you can be sure you will actually meet the valuer. When you meet them at the proeprty, you can then hand them your research into comparable sales and generally talk up the proeprty.

    With some lenders, you can actually choose the valuer from a list. You may also even be able to order the valuation yourself and then later reassign it to the bank if it comes in high enough. You could also posisbly shop around, ordering 2 or 3 valuations (from panel valuers) and then going with the highest – but of course this would mean extra expenses, but it may be worth it.

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    hi Mike

    There may be different tax implications depending on when your mum actually purchased the property too. It would be best to speak to a a lawyer who specialises in this area.

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    It doesn’t really matter whether you are buying residential or commercial – it would make no difference.

    At least consider setting up a trust. Talk to another accountant for a different point of view.

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    Mano

    I am no expert, but have done 3 LOs. What do you want to know?

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    Hi RMK

    Sounds like a good deal. Are you sure about the finance tho?

    $1 mil borrowings on $1.35mil val = 75% LVR

    Based on purchase price this would be 122% LVR.

    Borrowing on value would be possible, but this LVR is rather high. I am not saying it would be impossible, but just wish to point out it will be rather rare to go this high.

    good luck

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    LifeX, good luck and let us know how you go. I hope your LVR is less than 80% as it will be much easier.

    As for loans being called in, there is a rumour going around that one of the major banks recently called in the loans for a certain big wrapper. He had to refinance about 40 loans in a hurry.

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    siacci

    The loan will not be larger just because of x-coll, the security base would be larger, but it would not affect the loan, so therefore the commissions won’t change either.

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    Randallc

    I am not familiar with Rick’s LO style, but if it would normally rent for $330 pw and you want to charge $475, this is $145 pw extra in rent, but you only give a $25 pw credit. So it seems very expensive to me. Plus the option fee and renewal fee.

    This may be compensated by the high growth (projected) in the property.

    It sounds good from your point of view, but may be hard to find someone to accept this deal.

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    Steven

    ANZ actually let you go over 95% with LMI capitalised. ie LMI on top of the 95% loan. (I’ve personally done this 5 times).

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    Bnr

    Sure. There are various ways you can structure it, but check with your solicitor first.

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    You can also lodge one yourself at the Landtiles office.

    Terryw
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    I have been using a trust for about 3 years now and wouldn’t have it any other way.

    There is no problem with getting loans when using a trust – including 95% loans. They do not affect your borrowing capacity as you will still be giving a personal guarrantee for the loan.

    I think Lucifier is mixed up by 15% CGT. Is this for super funds (or is it 10%)? Trusts do not pay tax, but pass on the income to the beneficiaries, so the CGT may be as little as Nothing, or even as high as 24% (if on top taxrate after the 50% discount).

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    If you want to wrap it, you probably could get the deposit upfront, but the vendor would have to have $180,000 cash lying around to pay you (ie 30% of $600,000). You could also sell an option for this amount and get the ‘cash’ upfront. Option money is usually non refundable, but finding someone to do this may be hard. Then again, if they are getting a $400,000 discount as you say, then if may be possible.

    Terryw
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    Hey, he didn’t tell me about the wife!

    Terryw
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    And another one via correspondence at Tribeca:
    http://www.tribeca.com.au/content.asp?Document_ID=286

    Cost is $545 per course or about $2180 all up.

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    For those interested, here is the link to the 8 day course (cost $3800).
    http://www.ps146.com.au

    Terryw
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    If your properties are in your own name, there would be no point in paying yourself for this. Even if you could deduct the amount (Which I’m sure you can’t), you would have to declare an equal amount as income so they would cancel each other out.

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    You have to be careful with information you get over the phone from Govt departments (and banks?). Years ago the was a guy at the tax office who would be telling people they could claim things that they couldn’t-just because he couldn’t be bothered looking it up.

    Terryw
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    Dan

    With ANZ (and some other lenders) you can add the LMI to the loan so that it does not have to be paid upfront. You still have to pay for, just not upfront.

    As to your other questions, brokers get a commission from the lenders, but some pay more than others and this can influence the decision of some brokers. ANZ actually pays slightly less than the other major banks. I kind of like ANZ myself.

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