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What are the growth prospects?
If the area remains flat, then there is no point in investing.
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You have to save up the next deposit and/or wait for growth to build up equity.
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I am not sure why you would want to sell a Sydney property to buy possibly inferior cashflow poisitve property. You will probably end up making more money on the Sydney property on the gains. I sold a Sydney property to go cashflow, and regret it now.
You will also have to factor in the CGT you would have to pay, which could be huge.
What about looking at keeping the Sydney property and buying more property using this as equity (not cross securistising, but using a LOC eg.).
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Hi
ANZ have no limit on the number of or timing of valuations. I have just done one where the client has done a revaluation one day after settlement – with nothing done to the property – for a 30% increase.
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I have one on one of my properties. What did you want to know? They can get messy if not used properly.
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I have seen a few people get all reved up and form syndicates with their friends. off the top of my head, can’t say I’ve seen anyone do more than 1 property. It seems the enthusiasm gradually dies off in one or more members and one person ends up doing all the work and then gets fed up.
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I haven’t looked into the financing of these, but beleive major lenders won’t touch them because they are specialised security. They would be very hard to sell, so if anything went wrong, the bank may have trouble getting back their money. There may also be probelms with the bank forcing out old residents if they have to forclose, ie public relations probelms.
I personally would not invest in a retirement village. Especially when there are so many other good ‘standard’ property investments out there.
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I too would start diversifying.
In addition to generally being rather dangerous, this will have effects in the future on financing, if your lender suddenly decides that you have too many properties there, they could limit your LVRs reducing the amount of equity available to be withdraw, etc.
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Yes it maybe, if you properly document everything and work out an exit plan if one or more of your partners wants out.
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You could simply set up another account. But I think there is a way around it, by getting different deposit books that are coded. So each will appear differently on your statements. Let the bank know your problem and see if they can help.
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Its not illegal if the broker asks the client and gets the client to ring the wrapper.
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Originally posted by The Mortgage Adviser:Can someone explain hybrid trusts please. I would prefer not to go look it up as I have heaps to do!


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A unit trust will not effect distributions. The unit holder would be the discretionary trust, so all profits could be moved around at the trustee’s discretion.
A hybrid, allows the unit holder to borrow money in their own name (not the trust) and so claim the interest against their own personal income. This in effect allows you to negative gear with a trust.
If you are going to the trouble of setting up an expensive structure, maybe you should get Dale’s book to get a better idea on how trusts work. And look at http://www.chrisbatten.com.au
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I used them in the past, with good results!
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If you move out and rent your PPOR, the interest would be claimable, but if you increased the loan, the extra interest on this portion would only be claimable if the money was borrowed for business/investment purposes.
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you can setup a trust online in 5 mins for $137! But you had better understand them before you do that.
You can have an unlimited number of assets in a trust, but for protection reasons, you would be better setting up new ones every now and again. Usually the trustee is a company, and you control the company – in case the trustee is sued. But a trust can just hold shares in a company too.
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Looks good, but why not a unit trust with the units held by the discretionary (or hybrid discretionary). This many come in handy in transfering property to your SMSF in future without stampduty.
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Maybe you should look at a unit trust and/or partnership of discretionary trusts. You would need a partnership agreement either way, http://www.lawcentral.com.au for an example.
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Switched on investors mainly use trusts to hold their assets. Very common.
Banks can and do lend money to ‘trusts’. It is really no different to individuals, same rates, same LVRs etc.
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Its not that old, 3 years! And I beleive that other wrapper had his loans called in approx 12 months ago.
Brokers can even lose their accreditations with certain banks for doing non disclosed loans.
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A lease option is really just renting with an option. So it would not be classed as a refinance. They won’t even class a wrap as a refinance. But lenders will treat these favourably, and you may be able to get the loan based on value rather than contract price (which could be much lower), generally it would have to be an 80% LVR to do this to avoid the mortgage insurers. I have done the loan for one of these.
The first house is generally harder as you usually need to show genuine savings (depening on the LVR). When refinacing, you will not have this requirement, but must show 6 months of good repayment records.
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