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    What about non traditional lenders such as GE, Liberty, Pepper Home Lonas, Bluestone and HLP and others?

    These lenders specialise in helping people with credit problems. BUT you would need at least 10% deposit and the rates can be high. – up to 10.65%

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    why bother wrapping at all? If you wrap you may get short term cashflow, but in the end the wrappees will end up with the property and the capital gains.

    In a negative growth market, wraps would work well – for the wrapper that is. This is becasue you would receive a deposit and cashflow, and if the wrappees ened up walking away, you would stil be left with the property. It may have gone down in value, but you would have the deposit and cashflow to offset the ‘loss’ – which wouldn’t really be a loss anyway until you sold.

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    can’t see why it wouldn’t work.

    If you received vendor finance for a poriton, and borrowed the rest, you could have the title in your name. You could then onsell via an installment contract.

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    I can’t see the point in investing in property without capital gains. But whether to sell or not would depend on a lot of things. would you have to pay any taxes, how much money is tied up, could you get a better return elsewhere etc.

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    Originally posted by hkr:

    Hey following on from djones query i have the following problem with my IP loan account:

    I made 3 additional repays(big lump sum payments) temporarily into my IP Loan account. Basically my intention was to reduce my tax deductible loan temporarily as i didnt have any other loans at that moment. But within a month i bought a PPOR and have thus withdrawn these additional repayments in total and put this money in the PPOR loan which is non tax deductible.

    I understand i should have made these payments in the offset account of teh IP loan but i was unaware of this at the moment….

    Is there any way out of this mess as those additional repays were only for a very short time(less then a month and only 3 transction were made) and then withdrawn in 1 transaction.

    Just want to know if i have any option or whether i have lost on teh negative gearing aspect of my loan???

    Thanks in advance…

    HKR

    I agree with Derek. There is no way to rectifiy this now – unfortunately. You have paid down your investment loan, if you redraw from this you will be borrowing money again. If this borrowed money is used to pruchase a new PPOR, then the interest would not be deductible.

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    Ty

    That sounds correct to me. If you borrow to improve an investment property, then the interest should be dedcutible. The building cost of the room would be claimed as depreciation at 2.5% for 40 years, and any fittings in the room such as carpet etc could also be claimed via depreciation – usually over a much short time such as 5 years.

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    That is a bit harsh!

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    Hi

    You may get some ideas by looking at http://www.lawcentral.com.au

    They create various legal documents including joint venture agreements and agreements for buying property together. You have to register, but it is all free to create the documents and view all the tips.

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    Not many will knowingly finance wraps.

    Liberty have said they will, but I have not actually tested them out. Rates these days with liberty start at 6.69%, so it may be an option.

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    Are these card?

    A credit card is where you use the lenders funds to pay for your purchases/withdrawals. You then pay later – usually monthly.

    A debit card looks like a credit card, but you are actually using your own funds. ie you must have funds in the account.

    Various loans have these sorts of cards attached.

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    If you can keep coming up with the deposits, you can always find finance.

    Others have also used:
    – deposits received from wrapping
    – option fees from selling options on the proeprty
    – personal loans (not good, as the rates are high and amoutns limited)
    – credit cards (Oh no!)

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    I haven’t read the API article. But, the investor could have paid cash because it would be much easier to get the ball moving without a bank being invloved. He had the cash anyway. They could then contruct, or subdivide or whatever. Then when finished they could get finance on the final product on a much higher amount (hopefully), maybe even releasing all of the money they originally put into the deal.

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    Here is a link to another post I replied to the other day:
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic/15762.html

    There are links there to the dept of fair trading (NSW) section on buyers agents.

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    I agree with Derek, but would add, one disadvantage may be the fact your old home would be positve geared and so you will be paying extra tax on the rent received. Froma pure tax perspective, you would be better off staying put.

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    Pete

    I would be very wary of trying to flip using the and/or nominee trick. In most states, if not all, you would be up for stamp duty in addition to the purchaser (- unless, in some states only, you had a prior written agreement) and you would be legally required to settle on the property if you cannot find a nominee.

    I also beleive that in NSW you would need to be registered as a buyers agent with the Dept of Fair Trading to do ‘bird dogging’. ie you would be profiting from the sale/introduction of a property. I maybe wrong, so send them an email to check – better to get it in writing.

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    This is a difficlut question to answer. I generally feel it is a shame to sell since prices will rise and then you will have to buy back into the market again when you decide to invest. However if cashflow is hurting, selling and taking a small loss maybe a wise option.

    Byronent is correct about transferring between spouses. In NSW this can be done without stamp duty (and without the need for divorce). One of my clients did this last year. If you transfer to your husband, then this may help alleviate some of the interest costs by him claiming it against his other income. CGT didn’t be an issue as it hasn’t increased.

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    Just make sure that the offset account is a 100% offset – not all are.

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    You would have to do the intiall course of approx 2-5 days to qualify as a real estate sales person. These costs up to around $500 usually. Once you get that you should be able to get a job under a licenced agent.

    Then while working, it would be worthwhile studying the full licenced real estate agents course. After you complete this you can then go out and open your own agency. This course is about 3 months full time or of 1 day per week for one year. Or you can do the diploma at TAFE which is slower – 4 years.

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    Here is the link at the Dept of Fair Trading:
    http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/realestaterenting/agentsmanagers/qualifications_buyersagent.html

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    Sue

    In NSW I beleive you must be registered with the office Deparment of Fair trading to be a buyers agent -under the Property, Stock and Business Agents Act (2002).To be registered you will need to have completed a real estate course or a buyers agents course – TAFE NSW now runs one. see:
    http://www.oten.edu.au/oten/study/courses/CILS/coursedetails.cfm?CID=17337
    cost is $1250

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