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Yes you could ‘lend’ them the shortfall and you could secure your loan by a second mortgage. They would need permission from their lender to do this as title would change at settlement. It might be easier, for them, if you secured this against their other property – better for you against both of their properties.
Make sure you seek legal advice.
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Thanks TheNewGuy
I cannot find any records of that unit.
Most recent sale in the building, from what I can find, is unit 41 for $55k in Oct 15.
Unit 114 for $44,240 in Sept 15
Unit 111 for $34,000 in Sept 15.
Unit 103 for $23,000 in Apr 15.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Pity the link in the first post doesn’t work anymore as if we had the address we could have done an RP data search.
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It can be a good idea, but the interest on the loan will not be deductible because you are not borrowing to purchase the property.
However the interest could be deductible by starting out with a related party loan and then refinancing this, and/or if you use the borrowed funds for further investments. Speak to your tax agent or tax lawyer first.
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Think of the dangers that are out of your control
death
family law
incapacity
bankruptcy
running awayof the other person.
I had a client approach me where the female invested in a property with a boyfriend. She used her parents house as security for the purchase. After a year or so the boyfriend did a runner. She had to keep paying the loan as if she didn’t her parents house was on the line. The house they bought had dropped in value as well. When an owner disappears the property cannot be sold as they will need to agree to sell it. So an application to the supreme court is needed to appoint a trustee to sell it. This will cost around $40k. But as it has dropped in value the sale price wouldn’t meet the loan amount. So the only way to discharge the mortgage would be to pay the bank cash, or to keep the loan going secured by the parents property. This means the parents couldn’t sell while the loan is going.
If the property had suddenly increased in value I bet the boyfriend would have resurfaced.
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The trustee must exist before it can start the trust relationship.
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Sounds like the caused their trust to lend money to a building company. Eddie – the trustee have security for the loan, any personal guarantees? It is highly likely you will lose the lot, if no security, so be careful will spending big on lawyers.
You can try http://www.certuslegal.com.au/
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It might be worth asking the lender for the fee to break the loan? Just to find out and then work out if you think it is worth breaking.
If you invest the money elsewhere you will be earning money which will then be taxed. Whereas if you deposit it into the home loan you are saving interest which is tax free. If your rate is 5% then you would be earning a tax free 5% which may equal a 9% return invested elsewhere.
Also when you pay down the loan you can reborrow, setting up a new split, and then invest these borrowed funds. The interest on this loan will be deductible and then you can use the return on investment to pay down the home loan faster
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Do you have a fixed loan?
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It’s hard to outsmart the big banks. Even on the interest free period, they make their money on the average person’s lack of self-discipline.
And carelessness. I forgot to pay my cc last month being about a week over and I copped a $67 fee.
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Benny is right. Cash withdrawals attract no interest free period.
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That link goes to a link concerning data matching. I don’t think that is the ‘why’ but it is a tool.
I think the reason why they are chasing is because of tax fraud. many people have pretented to be living in a property when they were not, or vice verson pretending it was rented out while living in it. Also there are more than a few foreign owners who sold a property and simply went offshore with their money without paying CGT – and there are new withholding taxes to prevent this happening too.
Its a good thing!
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Yes that is possible in theory for a security guarantee. you won’t find a lender willing to take you as an income guarantor – or at least it will be very hard.
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Try Allan Swan
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If there is an appointor then the appointor may have the power to remove the trustee. Read your deed and see what happens if the appointor loses capacity or becomes bankrupt, or dies. Any exercise of power must be valid and performed strictly in accordance with the deed or the removal of the trustee will be invalid.
far from bullet proof. It is not as simple as buying a trust deed.
If your wife dies just as you are becoming bankrupt the shares would go to the trustee in bankruptcy. The trust CANNOT become a testamentary trust for your children. It is a trust set up already and the assets of the trust are not your’s to will. You should seek legal advice about setting up a testamentary discretionary trust in the will.
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If the husband ends up bankrupt he can no longer be director. The company is a separate legal entity to the director, so there would generally be no effect on this. The trust is a different matter. it will entirely depend on the terms of the trust and how it was transacted. Assuming no breaches of the trustee’s powers, no default beneficiaries and an open class trust and that the husband has not gifted or lent any money to the trust then assets of the trust will generally be safe. Any distribution to the husband would fall into the hands of the creditors, but the trustee would just divert the income elsewhere.
In either case, what would happen if the wife were to become bankrupt? Creditors could control the company which controls the trust. They could cause the trustee to distribute to the wife and this would all go to the creditors.
Also consider what could happen if the wife dies. Hope she has a will in place with special consideration given to who should get those shares.
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Hello everyone
When it comes to wraps who is supposed to pay for the council rates, the water rates and any wrap insurance?
Kind Regards
NathanThat is up to the parties to agree on. It would generally be the wrapee
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Hi Terry
I have been running a FT setup for years with a company trustee. I am director and wife is shareholder. In your experience is this the right way of setting it up, I am most litigious and have no assets. Any family assets are in wife’s name. Reason I ask is a friend of mine has it set up with wife both director and shareholder, but his circumstances are same as mine. He believes he got legal advice from one of the big city firms, whereas I did mine on cleardocs after discussions with my dad (has same setup) and own research. Thanks in advance. CallumTwo directors doubles the risk as there will be 2 personal guarantees as well as other potential issues such as breaches of the corporations act.
I can’t say whether you have set the trust up correct or not based on the above.
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You not only need an option agreement but a contract of sale. The terms of the eventual sale need to be determined up front. You will also need a lease. If you are trying to get your tenants to pay rates and other expenses you need to be careful because under the residential tenancies act, in some states, these costs may not be passed on to a tenant by a landlord.
I wouldn’t be using an online template for an option agreement. I am a lawyer but still wouldn’t prepare my own option agreement because it is not my area and I know it is very complex – for example your tenant may need to pay stamp duty in certain states and that could kill the deal.
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Richard, wasn’t there an exemption added for offset accounts about 5 years ago?
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