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    You will probably find the rates for private lending are much higher than normal. Why do you want to go down this path?

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    I think you will find most banks are ok with Hybrids if the trustee is the same as the unit holder. You only get into trouble if the title is in one name and the loan in another.

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    Hi MJ

    The ATO will want to look at what the funds were used for. in this case reducing non investment related expenses. Therefore if audited, you may be in trouble if you were to claim interest on the 80% LVR.

    (I am not an accountant)

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    Yes, that is true with Macquarie. You will find it hard, I think, to finance at a high LVR on a Low Doc.

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    Even Hybrid trusts cannot distribute losses. What they can do is allow you to borrow money to buy units in the trust, and you can then personally claim the interest against your personal income.

    But hybrids still do not allow you to claim the expenses – unless may be you can argue the trip etc were related to your investments in your units in the hybrid trust.

    Normally money spent on trips etc to see a property you do not yet own are not immediately deductible – but may be claimable if you sell.

    If a trust is in the business of property, then maybe you could claim the expenses through the trust.

    Best to check with an accountant – and let us know the answer.

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    An unconditional shouldn’t take that long. All they need is a valution, then a few days after that they usually issue the full approval. Strange

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    It may depend on how much you are after.

    ANZ still offer low docs at normal rates for all products for up to 60% LVR, and allow package discountsof up to 0.70%, making the rate from 6.62%. For 80% LVR they only allow certain products, but the package is not available.

    RAMS are currently offering 6.72% with no application fee if 70% LVR or at 80% if over $500,000.

    St George offer up to a 0.70% discount on low docs if over $350,000, making it 6.62% on the standard variable product. up to 80% LVR

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    Losses cannot be claimed against personal income with trusts. If the property is owned by the trust, then the expenses have to be claimed by the trust, these cannot be claimed by the individual as they do not own the property.

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    Hi Patrick

    What sort of prices ranges are the properties up there?

    You may be better off buying a property, getting the grant, living in it for 6months and then renting it out, claiming the deductions – tho you are on a low income so the tax savings would be limited.

    You could still claim the property as your main residence and avoid CGT for up to 6 years.

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    I was talking to a friend about this recently. His parents purchased their home in Sydney for about $16,000 nearly 30 years ago. The place is now worth about $1mil. If they still had an IO loan, then they would still owe $16k. Just 6 months rent would be bale to clear this now.

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    I beleive it is the 2nd answer. Not sure if it varies from state to state.

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    Assets owned by a discretionary trust are generally safe if the person goes bankrupt. You may think you will not go bankrupt, but this can happen for many innocent reasons – eg you own a business and your major creditor goes under owning you large sums of money that you can never recover. You business collapses as a result, and you have guarranteed a 5 year lease at $20,000 per month.

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    Usually 70 to 80%, but some take 100% (eg HSBC).

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    You cannot claim losses from a trust from your personal income. Any losses would be quarrantined int he trust until it makes a profit.

    You may be able to get around this with a Hybrid discretionary trust.

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    Yes, doesn’t look like much profit will be left after all the expenses are taken into account. If you sell (sign contracts) 12 months or more after you purchased (signed contracts) you would get the 50% reduction is CGT, but this wouldn’t be much.

    Maybe just hang on to it a bit longer.

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    Thanks Terry. Let me refresh your memory. Yep – that certain person was me. I was looking for a better rate, prudent I thought at the time to do due diligence against my current Lender…..however the results that came back were less money and higher rates from the 7 brokers that I canvassed, as compared with my Private Banker.

    I suppose if you are Mr Smith off the street walking into a bank branch looking for a loan, perhaps a mortgage broker is the way to go. Compared to the better deals that are available and not advertised or distributed to the broking community….then maybe not.

    Anyway, thanks for the input, from both you and Steve. We are reasonably happy with our financing and haven’t hit a wall yet. X-colled to the wazoo and loving it !!!!
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    Good to see you can keep going, but it would have been hard if you had to move one property to another bank.

    Also remember, I did come close to getting you a better rate, but you failed to give me all the info. I think I could have beat what you were getting if I had known this.

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    Tell them for further investment purposes, shares, or improvements on your home (not too much here). If you tell them property, they will want to see a contract of sale (you could get any old COS and present it to them if it comes to that).

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    Elkam

    I think in most states you will find they have clamped down on this. Unless you have a prior written agreement (in Vic), then you would have to pay stamp duty again if you nominated a different person to the one on the contract.

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    If you have a job, then you should be able to get finance (if you earn enough etc).

    You may also have the options of a low doc or a No Doc loan where you do not have to substantiate income.

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    Auspro is right actually. There is no CGT within the first 12 months, just income tax.

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