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How much will the reno cost? If you increase the loan to 90%, you may be paying a lot in LMI.
You don’t know the valuation will come in low. Why not risk $100 and take it from there?
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Don’t worry too much Anita. A hybrid may have saved you a little in tax however. Still better in the long run than holding them in your own name.
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Yes you would need a ABN.
You can probably convert your trust to a hybrid, but would probably not be able to borrow to buy units for these proeprties as they are already owned, but check this with a good accountant.
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Hi MJ
This is a complex area which I do not understand. The area I was thinking of is Division 7A loan agreements. See http://www.lawcentral.com.au
Froma brief look, it may be only problematic if your company lends money to the trust and this trust later lends money to an individual.
Without these agreements, any money lent may be deemed a dividend, which may result in tax having to be paid.
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You pay stamp duty on the transfer amount. Where there is a house or not is irelevant.
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Thanks Forlift. Will look for that.
C2, am building in Thailand soon. Wife is building in Japan soon also.
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My understanding is, the trust pays no tax if money is distributed. Any gain is usually passed on to either a person or a company. The money passed on retains its character, so a gain passed on remains a gain in the hands of the receiver. If a person gets it, then the 50% discount can apply, if the CG goes to a company, then it won’t apply.
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If you have no other benefificaries with lower tax rates, then you can distribute to a company which will pay tax at 30%. Company can then hold the money and distrbute it to shareholders, or lend it out to the turst. But there are a whole series of rules relating to this, so you had better discuss it with your accountant.
With most trust deeds, you can set up a company down the track it and will be a beneficiary if one of the trustees has a role in the company – director, shareholder etc. So you may not have to set one up initially.
And the company does not have to be trustee for you to distribute to. In fact, it may be better not to for asset protection reasons. What if you build up a substantial amount and the trust is sued?
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http://www.bantacs.com.au in up there somewhere.
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Still waiting for that reply from Bankwest!
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The bank shouldn’t have an issue. The security has increased in value, so the loan can increase. They don’t know about the units etc. That is an accounting entry.
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Yes again. I suppose i should clarify. Fees for the preparation of your tax return should be deductible.
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yes
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Yes, missed this one. The trusts can be converted, but with the fees it is probably cheaper to start a new one.
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Yes, some banks allow parents property to be used as additional security. eg. St George has a family pledge option. Parents property can be used for a fixed amount – eg 20% only so if thngs go wrong, the bank can only claim up to this amount.
Parents do not need to provide any income for serviceability – just the security property.
When your property rises you can release the guarrantee and your parents property.
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Virtually no bank will give out vals. CBA used to even have a policy of not telling you what it come in at!
However, ANZ allow the brokers to order and receive the vals.
All lenders do written vals too.
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Bit of a gamble sometimes I think. But i have known people who have done well.
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The main problem you will have is not being self employed for more than 2 years.
You may have to go for a No Doc loan at around 70% LVR with an interest rate of around 7%.
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It is not ideal, butpossible to use the existing security as additional security for hte new property.
Just go to your exisitng lender and tell them you want to borrow to buy a new property. They will ask how much deposit you have, you tell them you have equity and will be using this property as well as the new purchase for security.
They then do a valution on both. If you have enough equity, and everything stacks up, then fine.
If not, you may have to go to a new lender, and take the existing loan over to them too.
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If you borrow more than 80% of the value, then you would have to pay mortgage insurance – usually.
80% of 320K = $256K. So if you increased you loan to more than this, then LMI is payable.
However, if you unit increases in value, so does this figure. ie 80% of the value.
You can also buy a new property without increasing your loan. You can use this property as additional security for the new one. (cross collateralising the loan). If this case you can borrow, in total up to 80% of the combined value of both properties without paying LMI.
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