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Very good reply Derek.
There are some new No Doc lenders out that do not need a ABN. RAMS can even go up to 80% if you can get a letter from your accountant stating you have been self employed for more than 2 years. OR it may be possible to argue that you are a professional investor (no ABN needed) by the number of properties you own.
If you could go to 80% on a few this would make Dereks figures even better.
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Originally posted by mitzvah:Hi Tony.
Why bother with a Tenancy Agreement at all? Can’t both parties sign a lease-option agreement whereby all expenses are shifted over to leasee?
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A tenancy agreement is just another name for a lease?? The option is a separate contract.
In some states, such as NSW, apparently you can pass all expenses onto a tenant, but if they were to take you to the tribunal, they would be very likely to win and you would be ordered to reimburse all expenses.
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Hopefully Jules was considering a unit trust with the units owned by a discretionary trust. This used to be popular in NSW before the Land Tax rules (or interpretations of the rules) changed.
But it still may be a good structure as it may be possible to transfer you property into your SMSF later on without stamp duty.
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Originally posted by DanielCummins:I assume though, that the cost out of your own pocket to finance the loan throughout that settlement period should be factored into profits?
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The loan only starts at settlement. So if you can on sell before hand you will just be up for the interest on the 10% (or lower) deposit – if you borrowed that.
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If you rent part of your house while living in it, then you will lose the capital gain exemption. You will have able to claim a bit more, but it could cost you dearly in the end.
However, if you were renting out your whole property while not living in it, you could still claim everything and get the CGT exemption as well if you go about it the right way.
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My non legal opinion is that agents have a duty of care, and this cannot be contracted out. So if something happens that is their fault, then they could be sued.
I suppose it is like a doctor doing an operation. They may get you to sign all sorts of documents, but if they do not take adequate precautions etc they can be sued.
Better ran this by your solicitor if youare worried?
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I am not qualified to answer either, but that has never stopped me before.
I beleive that since the offset is a completely different account, then it has no bearing on tax deductibility. It is just a savings account. So moving money in and out will save interest, but since the money is not coming from the loan account, it should not affect deductibility of anything.
Why don’t you ring the ATO to ask.
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Hi Arthur
Richard has given a good reply to your first posts.
Having a company or a trust will not help with making finance easier. Lenders will look at the individuals behind these entities.
If you wish to keep going on forever, then it is possible if you have either income or equity. You may just have to try a few differennt lenders.
Having a business name will make no real difference. A business name is not a structure, but merely a name which companies of individuals can trade under.
Buying renovatons under a company/trust is a good idea for asset protection and taxation reasons and you should probably be looking into this area if you plan to do more than 1.
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Ihad a client that purchased approx 15 blocks off the plan for around $40,000. before settlement they were selling for around $160,000!!!! However, this was during the boom time a few years ago.
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I beleive in NSW stamp duty is payable within 3 months of exchange of contracts for wraps.
With Lease options there is no exchange yet, so no stamp duty issues until down the track – as Craig has written.
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Seems like you owe more than it is worth. That will make it impossible to refinance. You will have to wait for the market to pick up a bit and/or add value.
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Doesn’t look good for Sydney does it?
There are many ways to structure a LO. The 40% extra is not fixed, the figure could be more – but are their people out there that would pay this?
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Yes it is. But not against income tax, only against capital gains on sale. (But I beleive that in Canberra stamp duty can be claimed.)
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I think CATA has it correct.
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With a hybrid, the unit holder borrows money from the bank to buy the units (not the house), the trust lets the property be used as security. Then the unit holder can claim the interest on the loan against their other incomes. Losses still cannot be distributed from the trust, but because there is no loan, there will hopefully be no loss.
If there is no CGT, then I would suggest you try and get the value up as high as possible. This will help you borrow more, as well as reduce CGT if you were to ever sell.
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I think that is way too expensive. approx $1000 would seem reasonable.
I would do what Scott does, just maintain a spreadsheet and send your accountant one email summarising all your expenses.
Accountants are like solicitors, they would be charging you a fee for opening letters, for phone calls to chase up statements, a fee per page for photocopying etc.
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You should be looking for a loan with low exit fees, and/or portability – so when you sell you can take the loan over to the new property.
probably put up at least a 20% deposit to avoid mortgage insurance. Putting up more will save you a bit in loan stamp duty, but it may be best to keep a bit spare for costs.
I have really done something similar, but i would be looking for an annual profit similar or higher than what you would be getting if you were working – otherwise you will be going backwards.
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