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The main benefit I can think of is the limited liability issue. You would be far better looking at setting up a trust structure.
It may be possible for the shareholders of a company to transfer shares without stamp duty, but the offices of state revenue have clamped down on this and now if the company is considered land rich, then stamp duty will apply. This may vary from state to state as stamp duty is a state based tax.
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I had a plan which I ran by an account who was high up in the ATO for many years. He said it should be ok. It went something like this:
You have two loans, one on your house and one on your investment. You have some equity in one or both, so you set up a LOC on either. Everymonth you borrow to pay the expenses on the property. this money comes from the LOC and the money that you would have used goes into the 100% offset account attached to your home loan.
Then, you can borrow from the LOC to pay for the shortfall as the rent may not cover the interest.
I asked about borrowing the whole amount to pay the interest on the investment. He seemed to think it would be ok. Businesses borrow to pay interest all the time.
He said to strenghten your position, it would be better to have the IP loan and home loan with different banks. Set up a 100% offset account on the home loan so you are not actually paying down this loan. And pay the interest on the LOC each month.
The end effect is that you are paying the same interest overall, but you are slowly increasing your tax deductions.
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Not sure if you can claim things that are associated with future purchases. If you had a property at the time of the book purchase, then you should be right.
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What about a 2nd mortgage carryback? You could sell for $450,000 and lend them the 10% deposit and you would still get some cash out of it.
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You are moving into the house and claiming it as your PPOR during this time. So you may not be able to claim it at all.
The restumping is a repair, But you may be improving it to a state better than it was originally when you purchased it. So I would guess that it would be classed as part of the building, and so would be claimable at 2.5% over 40 years.
But I am not an accountant and this is only guesswork.
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Whats it worth?
Generally wrappers add 20% to the value, and then 2-3% on the nterest rate too.
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Pre approvals are only valid for 3 months generally. So it is better not to get in there too early.
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I beleive a Partnership is not really a separate legal entity. Like a trust is not. So the title will have to be in the name of a company or an individual – or combinations.
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I think generally lower valued properties have higher yields. I too would generally rather get 2 x smaller proeprties than one big one. But it would depend on the area and proeprties
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LOC is a Line of credit. doesn’t have to be a LOC, you can use any sort of loan,
Capitalising interest is justting the interest build up, not paying it everymonth. – This may be wise in some cases as you could possibly use your money elsewhere.
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You had better go to the ATO site, and download the CGT booklet. http://www.ato.gov.au
The max CGT could be 48.5%, the min zero (or even a loss). It all depends on how long you have held the property and how much you other income is.
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You had better use an accountant if you are not sure.
Stamp duty on the land is not deductible. It can be used to reduce the capital gain when you sell, but not claimable while you have the property. But I beleive the situation is different in Canberra with leasehold properties.
Similar with solicitor fees.
Some other costs are considered borrowing expenses. These can be claimed, but only over 5 years (ie 20% per year) or the term of the loan – whichever is shorter.
Other costs can be claimed in full – if related to an investment property.
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Many people that do this sort of thing live on equity by drawning LOCs.
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V8ghia, Although hard to find, they are still out there.
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You cannot use a formula based on rent alone. You must look at comparable sales – what similar properties have sold for in the same area, recently.
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I have heard about them, never financed one tho. From memory, LVRs are about 70% and the lenders do not like them
I think there are problems with selling the unit too, as the new purchaser may have to be approved by the other owners as well. this will limit the price. But as tools suggested, if you can change it to strata, then could makes some quick gains.
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It all depends on which lender you use. If you did a low doc wit st G for eg, you could be paying normal rates – with only LMI xtra.
If you go with Macquarie, you would be paying around 7.48% with no LMi payable.
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Maybe you could get him to sign a longer lease in return for you paying – with a small increase maybe?
Or maybe he could just get wirelss broadband.
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Why use someone overseas when you can use Richard in Australia?
It happens in Australia too. Some contacted me recently wanting to money personally – $2000. He showed me a loan approval which turned out to be a contract with a broker to look for finance for him. Their fee was $2000 just to look, whether succesful or not. He wanted to borrow money from me to pay this broker to look for finance for him!
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Thanks Prop
I have often thought about doing that dip FP course myself. It would be interesting even if one were not intending to be a FP.
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