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    Its confusing isn’t it. I thought my eg did result in 50/50 ownership with the dad gifting a portion to CJ. I will have to think about it again and repost.

    CJ, i think every lender will require that both loans be in both names. ie you will be responisble for the whole mortgage. But you could split them in two and you pay into one and mum into the other. each paying at their own pace – but each loan will have both names.

    And thanks to my number one fan of late, Richard!

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    Hi kjs

    Units in the countryside! These are not something I would ever consider myself.

    This deal looks rather expensive, what are comparable prices like there? The yield is not that good, you may only be making a few dollars cashflow after tax.

    6 units on one title may mean more difficult to get finance – ANZ maybe good for this, but they would probably only lend 70%.

    Are there any capital growth prospects?

    On a positive note, you may be able to strata title them and sell them off individually.

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    Duckster

    Thats a good point. My first home loan application was rejected, and I just gave up – if only i continued and got that property – probably lost $1mil in capital growth.

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    say its worth $500,000.

    Just think of it as a sale of the property and then repurchasing it.

    Assuming they will split it evenly, that means your dad’s share is worth $250,000, less his share of the loan of $50,000 = $200,000.

    Same with your mum.

    Now your dad will gift you this $100,000 of his $200,000 and you buy the same property with your mum. You have $100,000 equity and your mum has $200,000 equity with a combined loan of $200,000.

    Maybe you could split the loan in 2 and have 2 separate loan accounts of $100,000 each.

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    CJ, whats the place worth?

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    Its amazing isn’t it. There would be legal recourse, but it is difficult if the fraud has not been discovered straight away and the person used a false identity and has cashed the cheques and done a runner.

    Its amazing that the Land titles office doesn’t record dates of birth too.

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    One of my friends has done this, or something similar. She sold her unit to a friend, but kept the loan and the title in her name. Not sure why. Her friend pays all expenses including interest.

    But this can be a problem if things go wrong. What if the title owner were to go bankrupt for example – a legal mess.

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    Hi Karlm

    Sounds like you are putting all your money into the LOC which was used to fund the deposit for the investment property. If this, this is not very good. You are mxing investment and personal money in the one account so apportioning interest at tax time will be hard. Worse, every $1 you put in you are reducing the deductibility of interest and your investment portion of the LOC will be paid off in no time, and you will not have any deductions.

    Luckily it is a relatively small amount. The best way to structure in this situation would be a LOC and a 100% offset account linked to the home loan. Don’t pay anything except the monthly interest on the LOC and put all spare money in the offset to save you interest on your home loan.

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    Have you looked on ebay?

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    Yes, but remember paying off debt is different to paying expenses and the trust may still make a profit which will have to be distributed.

    Its just like yourself owning a property with a loan and earning $30,000 per year. If you paid off $30,000 in debt your income would still be $30,000 and you would have to pay tax accordingly.

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    Trustees can be changed easily, but just remember if the trust owns assets there will be a lot of paperwork – titles will need to be changed (the trustee is the legal owner) and loans will need to be changed into the new trustees names.

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    CT

    You are talking about hybrid trusts. With these the person borrows money to buy the units in the trust, not the property.

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    Its all up to you. Just bear in mind the loan will have to be in the name of the person on title. If both on title, then both on the loan.

    You can have an agreement drawn up to cover the deposit – this is essentially a trust arrangement.

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    Woodo

    Keep you loan as is and get another loan as a LOC secured against your home. This loan can be used as deposits so your new IP loans can be stand alone – ie not cross collateralised.

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    You should consider buying an owner occupied home as you are considering, and then using the equity for further investments. If you intend on renting this out, and using the 6 year CGT rule, then it would be good to look at a IO loan with a 100% offset account attached. Maybe get as large a loan as possible and place excess funds in the offset.

    This will keep the interest low while living in it, and allow you to take the excess funds out from the offset later without any tax implications in regards to claiming the interest.

    Then depending on your circumstances you may need to consider paying down the loan and redrawing to invest further, or just using the cash to invest.

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    Hi Pos

    Someone else has recently asked me a similar question – might have been you?

    With a hybrid trust you do not borrow and lend to the trust. You (or one of you – the hughest income earner usually), you borrow from the bank to buy units in the trust. So the trust sells you the units. The security for the loan is the trust property.

    If you were the unit holder, you would get the loan in your name. The owner oif the property would be the trustee.

    If your wife then wanted to buy a property, this is ok. I beleive another person could also buy units in the same trust, but the trustee would still own the property.

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    Look up the tenants union victoria – they are for tenants but offer a lot of informaion on how to evict someone. Think you should get them out asap.

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    I think CJ’s example would be fine – but check with your accoutant. As far as I know the six year rule starts again ocne you have moved in. So you could rent it out for 5 years, move in for a short period, and move out and rent it for another 5.9 years and just keep on doing this. As long as you are not abscent for mor than 6 years in a row, then it should be CGT free.

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    I think you should keep any investing and any business in a separate entitly. Business is a dangerous game, many get sued and go under. If you had your huses in there with a business, then they would be at risk.

    With property you would generally want a discretionary trust or a hybrid discretionary trust to allow negative gearing. Business would only need a discretionary trust, but should have a pty ldt company for limited liability purposes – with the shares owned by your discretionary trust.

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    St George is very good with hybrids as are Mqcquarie. Bankwest can be good in some circumstances, but they usually want too many guarrantees. ANZ – it depends on who you get assing the loan there.

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