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    What about public liability? Just in case someone injures themselves on site.

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    There are probably only 3 broad types of loans:
    Principle and Interest (PI)
    Interest Only (IO)
    Line of Credit (LOC)

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    Its hard to say.

    You could for example pay 20% deposit on some land, borrow 80% and then get DA approvals etc for a project. Then you could borrow 100% of the rest if it all stacks up.

    So if you had available equity of $160,000 you could buy some land of up to $640,000 approx.

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    With the same bank whether you have a 100% offset account makes no difference to the interest rate.

    Many lenders do have no frills products with cheaper rates, but no offset. But these days most of the banks offer discounts on professional packages which brings the standard loans down to the same rate as the no frils, with all the added extra.

    But there are some non bank lenders who do have very cheap loans without the offset accounts.

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    You will need to pay CGT at market rates for the property, not transfer amount. So if the property has gone up in value, you could be liable not matter what you transfer it at.

    Transfering it at a lower value could also affect the amount of money she could borrow. Lenders want to lend on the purchase price or the value, whichever is lower.

    Also consider the FHOG and stamp duty concessions may not be around in 12months time.

    There is a way to transfer it without stamp duty/CGT issues, and that is to use a Bare Trust. ie you buy it as trustee for her. Later on names can be changed without stamp duty. But you may have problems getting the grant with this setup, though it may still be possible as she will be the real owner.

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    Using a trust generally makes no difference at all to the ability to borrow. The only exception that I can think of is ANZ’s Low Doc loan which is not available to companies or trusts.

    There can be some problems when using a Hybrid Trust. This would only arise if you have a corporate trustee as the title will be in the company name, but the loan needs to be in a individual’s name. SO a third party guarantee is involved. Not many banks would do this. If the trustee and the unit holder is the same, then there should be no problem.

    Some lenders can also have problems with unit trusts.

    I don’t think you will get an easier book on trusts than ‘Trust Magic’. Start with that and then start surfing the net. Another one accountant’s use is “Trust Structures Guide”. Costs about $350 though!! But it is available in some university libraries. This is probably the best book on the different trust structures with flow charts helping to explain which one you might need. But it is not written from a property point of view. More business orientated.

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    You can only borrow a certain % of a property’s value. Usually 80% without Mortgage Insurance. So you would have to work out like this:

    Value x 80% less current loan = available equity.

    The 80% could be changed up to 95% if you are prepared to pay LMI. In some cases you could even borrow 100% for investments.

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    Hi Opp

    I agree that people need to verify things for themselves. So it is great when people can back up their argument with a useful refenece.

    However, in the document you refer there is nothing on page 11 that refers to interest on funds borrowed for legas etc. Certainly legals are a capital expense and cannot be claimed against income (only CG).

    The arguement here is if you borrow to pay legal expenses, stamp duty, etc is the interest deductible.

    I say it is.

    I can find no reference, maybe because it is generally accepted practice that interest on borrowings for investments is deductible. After all a house is a captial expense. You cannot pay $200,000 for a house and claim this $200,000, but you can borrow to buy it and claim the interest.

    That’s my take. And I am no accountant either.

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    Well, there is not much to tell. Many lenders offer 100% offset accounts, so if your trust has borrowings, get an offset account and place all rents etc into this account and get the repayments etc direct debited.

    The balance in the offset account will be offset against the loan. So if you have a $100,000 loan with $10,000 in the offset account, you will only pay interest on $90,000.

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    Offset accounts are best, – these accounts need to be in the exact same name as the loan they are offset against.

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    Hi

    whether or not there are expectations of CG not really relevant. You would want to reduce non deductible debt first. Even if that is gone, IO would mean lower repayments which in turn would mean you could invest in something extra.

    I guess the only time yo would want to pay PI is if that would be your one and only investment ever. Even then IO with the option of paying extra would be preferrable.

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    Originally posted by dacium:

    Your account is correct.

    Think of it this way, you cannot loan money to pay for rates and expect to claim that interest. You can see here http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.asp?doc=/content/66031.htm&page=9&H9 the basic overview. You cannot claim interest on anything but the actual loan covering the cost of the property, not coving the fees etc you had to pay.

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    Are you sure? Can you point out anywhere on that page where it says the interest on borrowings for expenses will not be deductible?

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    You could get around 75% of end valuation on a Low Doc basis. Would have to change lenders tho. Since you already own the land, you may not need any further funds.

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    You cannot normall force them to sell their share to you, or the sale of the whole thing. Do you have a joint purchaser’s agreement?

    You probably need to speak to a soliticor, you may need are court order to force them to sell.

    What about talking to ther person and trying to convince them to get out?

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    bypass the agent!!

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    I am not an accountant, but think that you can claim the interest on any borrowings relating to the IP, and that would include purchase costs.

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    Thats a tought one. If you sell now you will incur costs and may even make a loss. And once you sell that area may go up in value and you could be kicking yourself.

    What area is it in?

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    I made a post here a few days ago, but looks like it didn’t get through.

    NSW OSR’s take on trusts changed a few months after the PIT trust was released. I think they were marketing it as a way to reduce land tax, and I am not sure if this is still the case or not.

    All discretionary trusts would get the 50% CGT discounts as the incomes are passed through to the beneficiaries. If the beneficiary is an individual, the discount should be available if the trust held the asset mroe than 12 months.

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    I beleive if your trust is just involved with rental property, then there is no need to register for GST.

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    Or approach a bank in the country where the property is located.

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