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A discretionary trust is one which allows the trustee discretion to distribute income and capital gains to a wide class of beneficiaries.
A hybrid is, usually, a discretionary trust which has the ability to issue units. Usually the high income earner borrows to buy the units and claims the interest on this loan against their personal income. In return for this (to justify the deduction) all the trust income must go to the unit holder. Later on the unit holder can sell their units to the trust and it can then function as a discretionary trust.
The ATO is looking into hybrids now, and there are certain deeds out there that are no good and will not allow the interest claims to be substanitated. So I would suggest you not buy a Hybrid trust deed over the internet without some professional advice.
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If you can't service the loan, then maybe you shouldn't get it. There is nothing worse than seeing clients who over extend and then lose the lot.
If you had a low LVR, you could borrow more and use this to help with the repayments, but 85% is very high and the price is very high too, adding to the risk.
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What about taking an option over the property?Get the seller to vendor finance it to you. ie you borrow the deposit from them interest free, or low, helping to reduce repayments.
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Renovations are certainly deductible. But when and how is the question, and this depends if it is a repair, a part of the building works or an improvement etc.
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Yes, this is common. Your solicitor should have warned you about this before you exchanged. If not settled, or certain certificates issued by a certain date, then one or either party can back out.
Some developers have been know to go slow when they know prices have risen just so they can take the properties back and resell them at a higher price.
It works the other way too. I rescinded a contract a few years ago because the unit went down in value and the developer was slow.
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try http://www.guardianpartners.com.au
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Hi Koons
I like option 3. But there are other factors to consider – that fact that someone else is living in your home, and the hassle of living in rented place where you may have to move after 6 months etc. Maybe work out how much you will actually be saving by renting the place out and then see if it is worth it.
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Hi Marc
So you are borrowing money to buy your wife's half of the property which will be an investment. On the face of it, it sounds to be ok. But the ATO could apply part IVA and say you did it with the dominant purpose of avoiding tax and thereby disallow it. Whether they would do this or not I don't know.
To make it stronger froma tax POV, what about if your acquire your new share in a trust, so you have 50% as an individual and 50% as a trust = but this then may invalidate the stamp duty concessions.
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I am helping a client at the moment who has a second mortgage. He is paying around 24%, but has defaulted and the rate is now 33% pa.
The going rate seems to be around 20%, and they usually only lend up to 80% LVR, so you would ordinairly not need one as cheaper funds are available on normal 1st mortgages up to 80%. This guy was just ripped off by a broker he chose from a newspaper.
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The ATO wants to assess you on your worldwide income, so you probably can claim the loss against your Aussie income – but you will have to pay tax on the profits here too.
For NZ properties, you actually can get loans here in Australia. There are not many lenders that do it, but one is Pioneer. I think the rates are lower here slightly, but then you have to factor in exchange rates etc.
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It all depends if you have a company as Trustee. If no company, then most will probably lend. If a company, then the number of lenders drops because the loan will need to be in a different name to the title holder.
On a different note, please be extremely cautious with using a hybrid trust. The ATO has recently issued a number of private rulings and it seems many of the HDT deeds out there will be inadequate for allowing the unit holder to claim interest against their personal incomes.
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Hi Wayne
There was that recent case in NSW where an agent sold a house where one son of hte family killed his parents and a sister (gozales family). The house was sold to a Taiwanese couple who where from out of town and not familiar with it. They were also superstitious. They eventually found out and sued the agent. Think the received a large payout too.
I think it was ruled the agent has a duty to declare this sort of information even if the topic isn't brought up.
But how long should this be disclosed? What if the next purchasers sell the house 5 years later etc.
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Hi Giulio
In NSW, I think they limit you to 1 owner built property every 5 years!
I'd be interested to know the answer to your other question too.
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One potential problem is if the MIL has a loan over the property. She would need a cash payment to pay that out. If this is the case she could vendor finance it to you on an installment contract instead though.
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People are dying everyday all over the place. Probably most places have had at least one death in them over the years. One of my tenants even died recently – of natural causes, in the house too I think. But I guess a murder is different. It would be a bit scary living in a place with a ghost, but but most people would gradually forget about it as time progresses.
Xenia, I wonder how long you would have to keep on disclosing this sort of thing?
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One of my PMs talked me into dropping the rent recently to get a tenant in quick. I was then shocked to see she has signed them up for a 1 year lease – I had assumed it was 6 months. I checked the contract I had signed with the agent, and in the standard provisions it includes a provision that the agent has the ability to sign the lease on behalve of the owner.
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another one is http://www.invested.com.au
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If you wish to challenge a valuation, you will need to show recent sales history for similar properties in the area. Try and get a little list together and present this to the lender who should pass it on to the valuer.
However, if you have the loan approved already, then there is not much to worry about. Valuations are only valid for 3 months, so unless you are planning to buy again soon, just leave it till next time. And then prepare a list in advance so the lender can present it to the valuer before they go out.
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I am not an accoutant, but think you are correct on the 6 year rule. Once your property is rented out, or even while you are trying to rent it, I think all expenses should be deductible.
It is a bit more tricky with the interest on the loan tho. When you pull money out, this is classes as reborrowings and the interest is only deductible if the funds were used for investment purposes. Better check this with your accountant.
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The guaranteed tenancy is what makes it unattactive!! Lenders realise there is no real guarantee and fear that the guarantee has been built into the price. though there are less problems with this with an existing building.
You would probably only get 70 to 80% LVR for a serviced apartment.
If you doubt capital gains would be good and rental returns aren't too good either, why buy it?
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A contract is binding once exchanged. No backing out now unless the other party lets you.
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