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This question has come up about 3 times in the last few days. have a look at some of the other answers.
Companies don't get tax breaks – it will end up costing you much more if you form a company, especially if you are going to live in the property. If it will be an investment look at discretionary trusts and unit trust (good way for several to own property in equal shares).
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Santoriniwalk wrote:Hi Terry – yes I had thought of renting it out but need some more info on CGT exemption for PPOR. If I were to rent it out, claim tax benefits, then move back in within 6 years would I then be required to pay back any tax benefits?
My property is in Mawson Lakes SA, a Delfin land development. It has fantastic amenities (schools, shopping centre, University of SA campus etc) and is 12km north from the city. The development is smack bang in the middle of the Port expressway meeting with the proposed northern expressway, and with all of the projects planned for the northern suburbs there could be great opportunities for growth. Our home is in what has been developed as a more "elite" section called the Bridges. Our home is conservatively valued at $520,000, with homes on the next street selling for up to $1M. I'd be keen to hear any ones views on the growth on these sorts of land developments – or Mawson Lakes in particular.
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You don't have to pay back any tax benefits if you move back into the property. If you were to move back in and out again, then you could rent it for 6 more years and still have it classed as your main residence and be CGT free.
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You can do a search online at the Land Titles site in your state. Costs about $8. You need to look for the transfer. this has the names of the buyers and a sellers and the amount.
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I suggest people just establish LOCs on existing property to 80% LVR, then use this for the deposits and costs of the new properties with each new property getting its own 80% LVR loan. The LOC (Line of Credit) can be used to pay ongoing expenses and possibly any shortfalls on the interest for the other loans.
As you wife is not currently working it would be good to not have her guarantee any loans – no point as she has no income. If she guarantees loans then you are adding risk unnecessarily and are reducing her borrowing capacity. If she is a trustee, maybe look at removing her – but talk to the person who set it up as this may effect beneficiaries.
Do a few loans with you guaranteeing, and then maybe set up a new trust with the wife taking on new properties later. You both should be able to benefit from each property as you are related.
All loans should be IO, and maybe you need a 100% offset account on one loan. Use the offset account to store any spare cash, don't pay off loans.
To maximise borrowing capacity look at using the big banks now, don't use LMI. This will enable you to get more No Doc loans down the track.
Also if you set up a large enough LOC, you can pay cash for properties and then mortgage them after settlement. This way the bank will not be limited to lending based on contract price. So if you purchase under valuer you may be able to end up getting a higher loan.
eg. Buy for $80,000 cash. Then apply for loan. Bank values it at $100,000 and you get a 80% loan = $80,000. You release this $80k into the LOC and repeat the process.
And have you thought about keeping the land and building on it? If you sell you will have various costs and then stamp duty again when you buy a replacement property.
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Did you have a subject to finance clause? or even a building inspection?
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shane.barry28876 wrote:I dont know about that – but does anyone know how to get a stapler out of my head? – damn nuisance!Common problem. Try a staple remover.
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Which part do you disagree with?
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I don't think you can generally claim courses. Do a search on the legal database of the ATO site.
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Hi Elka
Its getting clearer now.
Changing to IO is pretty straight forward. But you want to access some equity and want to know what to do with it, I think?
Lets assume your loan was $100,000 and it has come down to $80,000. You would need to keep your IO loan at $80,000 as you have paid off $20,000.
You could then take a split, or even an increase up to 80% of your value. So say it is valued at $200,000, you could get a total loan of $160,000 which is $80,000 more. You should not take this as cash and put it in your offset as you will mix it with non borrowed money and this may complicate things if you wish to use it for investment and claim the interest. I would think it may be wise to put the money back in the loan (if you have redraw), then when you want to use it for investment you reborrow it again.
You could have a split, but it shouldn't really matter as your existing loan is for investment purposes and aportioning the interest will be easy with IO loans.
I Don't know much about super, but think you can borrow to pay into super in certain circumstances claim the interest too.
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Hi Peter
This is a complicated area and you will need some expert advice.
If you change names after sub division, then you will have stamp duty issues – and maybe CGT. Maybe even GST issues too?
There is a way around this, aparently, in some states. You draw up a deed of partition so you each x% each of the original block. Then when you subdivide, as long as the % ownership remains the same, you may be able to avoid stamp duty.
If you are going to rent the properties out initially, then you will probably have CG applied to this period – when you get the sub division, the value could increase a fair bit which may make your CGT higher if it is a rental during this period.
If you have owned a property before, then I don't think your son could get the grant if you are on title.
Maybe to minimise CGT, your son could move into the property immediately after settlement and establish it as his main residence – then rent it out. He may be able to get the CGT exemption on his share.
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elkam wrote:Thank you, I didn't know that.
Still, they could be up for paying some of the CGT out of their own pockets couldn't they, assuming no other assets?Who, the kids? Why would they have to pay someone else's tax?
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Debt is not hereditary. They kids will be left with nothing, but maybe assets left in other trusts.
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It may be wise to move to the area first so you can get a good feel on where to live. But if you get there and have quit your old job, it could be hard to get finance/
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Hi Elka
You could take your loan to the max by splitting it with the new loan being separate then the existing – this can be IO or LOC. That way when you take the money out if can be separate from the other non deductible loans.
Is that what you are asking?
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There is no such thing as wholesale really. They are just selling blocks at market price with a marketing spin. But you may do well buying land 'off the plan' as the prices can rapidly increase (sometimes). One of my clients purchased approx 20 blocks off the plan for about $40,000. He then on sold them at various prices before they were complete making a very nice profit. At the end they were selling for $160,000 each! But not everything goes well, so plan carefully and work out what will happen if the values don't go up, or even drop a bit – can you settle?
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Sounds like you maybe locked in. You may only be able to get out if they let you, or if one of the conditions are not met. With property purchased off the plan there are often clauses in the contract which state that if the title is not registered by a certain date, then either party may pull out without penalty and get their deposits back. If the price has risen and the blocks are selling good, the vendor may even be happy for you to pull out as they can resell for a higher price.
Another option is to onsell the land before you settle. You still have a year and a bit left, so it will probably go up in value before then, and you may even make a small profit.
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Discretionary Trusts are good for many reasons. One draw back is that they cannot distribute losses. But in your situation there may be only a small loss for a few years. After that the benefits will really start to pay off – especially if you sell.
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Only approx 5 acres of your main residence is exempt from CGT. You are also required to move into your main residence as soon as practical after its purchase. So I think your parents will be up for CGT, but there may be ways to minimise it fi they lived in the shed, or maybe even intended to. Speak to a good accountant or three.
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I don't know, but will have a guess.
I think the 12 months would apply from the date of the contract for the land. So holding the land for 12 months or more should give you the discount.
The CG would be the profit, ie sale price less costs such as building and land etc. Then this is discounted.
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I guess a lot of people don't realise they could end up in the negative in the end when GCT is taken into account. Many never intend to sell and just wsh to live it up till death.
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