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    When the courts make orders to rearrange ownership of property they do take into account who owns the property and who has paid for it. But they also take into account non-financial contributions.

    So some investment structuring strategies could work against you in a family law dispute. One strategy is for spouses to keep finances separate and to buy property in single names. Where X buys a property and Y makes no contribution to the deposit or to the loan, or to the repayments and has never helped in renovating the property etc then the courts are more likely to favour X in such a situation.

    There are exemptions for CGT on the transfer of property as a result in a relationship breakdown. If title is transferred CGT may not be triggered now, but the recipient (transferee) will be liable on the full amount when the property is later sold. So as Blackhotel says you have to take into account the future CGT liability on any property settlement.

    And, trusts can help in some situations, it all comes down to how they are structured. I think one recent case is Morris v Morris where the spouse attacked a trust of which the husband was a beneficiary, but failed to have the trust assets treated as property of the marriage. it was still a financial resource though.

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    Thanks for the reply Terry.We discharged around Jan 15 but moved in during the 13/14 FY (passed the 2 years for amendments) and about to make IP so i’m guessing that we’ve missed out on the ability to deduct any of the lmi cost.I wish my accountant had given us better instructions/advice.

    If it was less than 60 months since you took the loan and incurred the LMI then part of it may be deductible in the 2015/16 financial year – as long as it was rented at this time.

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    Hi Terry,
    I thought if I hold the PPOR for 12 months, I am not subjected to CGT.Am I wrong ?
    Thanks

    This statement could be true, but it is not always correct.

    A main residence could be exempt from CGT provided certain requirements are met such as:
    – not income producing and not able to claim the interest
    – moved in as soon as practical after completion
    – not claiming another main residence
    etc

    there is no 12 months rule. You are probably confusing the 50% CGT discount which applies after 12 months.

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    A PPOR can be subject to CGT – it will depend on the circumstances.
    You may have a job, but can you get finance is the important question. Serviceability has tightened up conisderably and this will get worse in the near future I believe.

    Sounds like a risky investment to me.

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    I sign th epre sale 2BR apartment in level 20 with good view, I think I’ve got good deal with price and time frame bcuz I can rent it easy with condition and location and clain it on tax

    But will you be able to get finance to settle in 2019?

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    Also if you dont mind what does a normal day look like for a mortgage broker?

    The dream
    Wake up at 10am, check emails. Then check out netflix to see if the latest episode of your favourite show is available. Pause the show while you take a few calls. Then head off to Bunnings to buy something. Take a call while walking back to your tax deductible car. Go home and finish counting your money and then play Xbox until the close of business.

    But for most brokers the reality is:
    wake up at 7am and go and meet a prospect at 10am. Spend 2 hours with them answering investment related questions with a few loan questions. Go home and work out serviceability etc. The next day you put a proposal to them. A week later after not hearing back from them you call up to find out that they went direct to the bank.

    The next day you go out to see another client. after driving 2 hours to get there you find out that the husband actually works in a bank and can get 90% loans with no LMI. They just wanted to use you to further their education.

    Commission time is coming up and the only loan you have settled is one for $250,000. You think oh well that is enough to live on for another month until you get your commisison statements and find out that your cousin refinanced one day prior to the 1 year anniversary of their settlement so that now you have to repay all of the commission you received on that deal. Your monthly income is now negative $2000. At least you will get some GST back.

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    No, it is probably not a good idea to sell a main residence to pay down investment loans. You will be giving up your only tax free investment and you will be paying tax on the increased income. Plus you will need to find somewhere to live and if you are paying renting you will have to pay that with post tax income.

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    If you move in you can claim lmi on the remaining 5 years.

    If you discharge the loan you can claim any remaining lmi unclaimed in that year of discharge.

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    It will be based on title unless one party makes application for the courts to make a property settlement.

    I advise against 99% 1% ownership in most cases. Owning one percent of a property is pretty pointless. Consider the effects on borrowing too.

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    It means if you are the owner and mortgage the property you promise, as mortgagor under the mortgage agreement, must prevent people from lodging caveats. If someone lodges you must do all you can to have the caveat removed.

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    With a company new investors can be introduced by transferring shares without triggering stamp duty in most cases, so it is more flexible in this regard.

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    Banks generally won’t like to take income from property renovation into account for servicing. Property sales are considered one offs and even if they would take it into account you will need 2 full years tax returns with the majority of lenders.

    A way around this may be to set up a company to do the projects. If your intention is profit making then there would be no main residence CGT exemption anyway and the profit would be taxed as income and not capital gains so no 50% discount. The company can pay dividends which transforms the income so the lender will not necessarily know it is coming from property – just don’t use the word ‘development’ in the company name.

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    Beware – lots of confusing comments in this section.

    1. Don’t draw it down. If you borrow to pay off the main residence loan the interest won’t be deductible and your $120k split will be a mixed purpose loan.

    2. With extreme care. If you pay for something with cash and then take money from the loan the interest will not be deductible because you have just borrowed to reimburse yourself. Mixed loan issues too,

    You need to pay the vendor directly from your loan account – which may be difficult.
    An alternative is to use a credit card to borrow to pay for the items and then refinance this loan with the bank loan. You must not have any other private expenses on the card when doing this – or the card will be a mixed purpose loan.

    3. Bloody oath. Have you sought tax advice? Property first used to produce income could reset the cost base to market value at the date it first earns income.

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    I have posted a new thread of a few ways a trust can help improve borrowing capacity. see https://www.propertyinvesting.com/topic/5031860-trust-strategies-to-increase-borrowing-capacity/

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    With serviceability it is not a matter of which lender, but the situation and the structure.

    Land tax is too complicated to list the differences across all states. Even comparing 2 states is complex.
    In QLD each trust could get a separate threshold of $350,000. Same with companies.

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    Ethan

    Trusts can actually increase serviceability in many instances.
    Trusts can negative gear just like a person can
    Land tax on the first dollar is only for land in NSW. In QLD a trust owning land gets a separate threshold for example.

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    The answer to most who ask me should they use a trust to own property is ‘probably not’.

    The risk of being sued is overstated by spruikers who try to make money out of selling trusts – most of them unqualified too.

    Tenants can and do sue, but it is very rare. I have been investing in property for over 20 years and no tenant has ever attempted to sue me – except perhaps in the tribunal over minor lease disputes. But hold a property in a trust won’t protect the property because they will sue the owner of the property which will be the trustee. Trustee is indemnified out of the trust assets so all the assets of that trust will be at risk – but your personal assets may be at risk.

    I think the great danger would come from if you are in business. There are always disputes in business so this can be very risky. But I have been self employed for about 15 years and never been sued. I have had some disputes, but never that serious. But I have sued a client in court myself. That is risky potentially as if you lose you could be up for costs.

    I advise on asset protection a fair bit yet I have only seen about 5 or so people end up bankrupt. So it is pretty rare.

    Keep in mind that there are other ways to ‘protect’ assets without those assets being held in trust.

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    Benny

    DIfferent lawys for land tax to income tax. A property could be a main residence for CGT purposes yet not a PPOR for land tax purposes, and vice versa,

    In NSW for example it is much harder to get the PPOR land tax exemption for a property you have moved out than it is for CGT.

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    Yes valuers actually can tell you what it would have been worth at any point in time.

    It could also be exempt from CGT for up to 6 years.

    Benny – there is no declaring of which property will be the main residence – until the sale of one of them.

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    You could do 3 things
    1. Nothing, but work on getting a borrowing capacity.
    2. Lend some of the money to someone who does have a borrowing capacity
    3. joint ownership with someone who does have a capacity – whether direct, via a company or trust structure

    But get legal advice before considering 2 or 3.

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