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    It will depend on what the $50,000 withdrawal is used for. if it is used for something associated with the property then the interest will be deductible.

    There is also another one around this, slower though more effective. According to TD 2008/27 the principles governing the deductibility of compound interest are the same as those governing the deductibility of ordinary interest. This means that if the interest on a loan is deductible then if you compound the interest (ie capitalise it) it will be deductible. Therefore it is possible for you to set up your loans in such a way as to borrow to pay the interest on the IP loan. Best to talk to a good accountant about setting it up and to apply for a private ruling.

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    Actually in Victoria it is possible. Not in most states thought

    see
    s 43 Duties Act 2000 (Vic)
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/da200093/s43.html

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    I think if may help if you are talk about ownership structures rather than finance strucutres.

    Expenses are claimed by the person or entity that owns the property so if you set up a DT it would claim all costs including depreciation etc. One disadvantage is that if there is a loss this loss is trapped within the trust and cannot be used to offset personal income. The trust can still negative gear if it has other income (ie income can be reduced by losses) but if there is no other income the loss can be carried forward until the next year – or until there is a profit to offset it.

    Also these structures cannot help you borrow more because lenders will take personal guarantees from the people behind the trust and all loans and guaranteed loans of the entities and people involved will be taken into account.

    For flexibility and safety it would be good to have just one property per trust, but it is up to you. This is because If the trust is sued all the assets of the trust would be at risk and having one per trust can help control losses if there are any – eg. keep a loss for a future year rather than use it up on a capital gain. Flexible planning.

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    Kids and adults under a certain threshold also get a low income rebate too. That is what makes the amount higher. eg. for an adult they are taxed on every cent over $6000 pa, but if they are under a certain amount the govt gives them a rebate for the tax  – so that takes it to $15k before the person has to start paying tax.

    I think CGT is included as income for kids at the same threshold – but have never looked into this so not totally sure.

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    And it is not only your own children, but grandchildren, neices and nephews etc too!

    each adult can also earn up to $15k tax free pa, so if you have adult kids on maternity leave, at uni etc this can save you a fortune

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    LAst time I looked kids can earn up to $3000 pa each in unearned income.

    In addition to what Richard mentioned, which is probably the major factor, you can distribut to a copmany and cap the tax at 30%.

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    hi NE

    Most people don't use trusts all. They usually just purchase in their own names. There is not much you can do, no structure, which allows you to utilise someone elses loss.

    You could gift or lend to the trust so that it has lower loans and more profit – but you will need the cash to do this. This is probably the best way to proceed if you can. Or just accumulate the losses.

    I am not sure if income losses of a trust can be used to offset a capital gain. I think it may depend on the wording of the deed so that income can be reclassified, otherwise it probably wouldn't work like that. But, on the other hand, if you had an income loss and then a capital gain the loss would offset the gain. Best to ask an accountant this question.

    If you are into property there should be a profit in there somewhere – otherwise there is no point in investing. So I suggest to do some sums and see how much of a loss there will be and how not claiming this loss will affect you. Buying in your own name could mean you can afford an extra property sooner for example.

    ps. A good friend of mine purchased in his own name because of the negative gearing deductions. His wife wasn't working and he was on the highest tax bracket. I recommended a trust, but he bought in his own name. 2 years later the property doubled and he sold paying a huge amount of tax while his wife still had no income.

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    was it this one http://www.allhomes.com.au/

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    I always thoughty you couldn't apply the main residence CGT exemption to vacant land.

    You can only have one house count as your main residence at anyone time – except for a 6 month overlap period. The main residence doesn't have to be the one you are living in, but could be the former one. You can just chose whichever has gone up the most in value.

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    hi NE

    You can't have your cake and eat it too.

    The owner of the property claims the costs including depreciation. So in a trust you take the income and deduct expenses and depreciation and if there is a profit this is then distributed. If there is a loss this is trapped and cannot be used to offset personal income. It can be rolled over until the trust makes a profit.

    You can get around this by using a unit trust or a hybrid unit trust with the person borrowing to buy units in the trust. But the trusts have to be structured in a way so that there is no discretion on distributing income (or the ATO will not allow the deduction) so there is no real point in using these as they offer no asset protection either.

    What you need is a way to get other income into the trust to offset the losses from the first property. This may be possible depending on your situation. eg if you are self employed it is easy.
    another way, eg. For the existing properties it may be possible for your trust to rent them for say 10 years at a a cheap rent. The trust then onleases them at a higher rent to tenants and it can therefore make a profit (and reduce your income). This profit can then be used to offset the loss from the first property purchase.

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    about 10 years ago they were selling for $115k to $130k. What about now? (for Sydney broadway)

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    Funny Richard! They have probably paid off their home by now!

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    ray butters wrote:
    Hi,
        If i build a house and live in it for a year then sell it will i be able to avoid capital gains tax?

    Maybe.
    If it was your sole residence, your main residence and was owned in your own name and was less than 5 acres in size and not used for a commercial pupose then probably you could avoid CGT.

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    Some personal loans have redraw, but never heard of one with an offset. You could not use this anyway as you could just withdraw the funds. You may be able to use a term deposit as a guarantee – but you might as well just pay the deposit rather than borrow at 6% and ivnest at 5% and then pay the guarantee fees.

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    god_of_money wrote:

    good tool to bargain with the RE agent.. as they are always lying to you on how long the property has been on market

    A real estate agent lying? No way. never. cannot be!

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    duckster wrote:
    My parents have a strange situation the original real estate agent didn't collect bond and the real estate agents that took over the original real estate business didn't check if their was a bond against each rental property.
    So now that the tenants done damage and a runner my parents have no bond money.
    I reckon they should claim against the real estate agents as they caused this situation.
    What insurance companies are you using for landlords insurance as mine has a excess of $500 which I am not happy about that they introduced after I had been a customer for 15 years.

    Yes Dickster, claim against them – that is what you are paying them to do, to look after your interests.

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    wow, that is an excellent site. thanks

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    You has a misspelling in the link
    http://www.propertycalculator.net/

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    mattnz wrote:
    I am about to purchase property in the new Wyndham Cove Marina. I am high on their list of those that have registered and will have the opportunity to secure a prime piece of waterfront real estate (and a marina berth) in this new development. The initial land release is significantly oversubscribed and appears to have very high demand. I need to finance the 10% deposit in January 2010, but won't have cash freed up until late April, when an investment will release significant funding (more than I need for the deposit). Titles for the development will not be released for at least another 18 months at which time settlement will take place. I have asked the vendors if they would accept a deposit bond, they advised that they can't, but would accept a bank guarantee. I am not in a position to offer any property as security against a bank guarantee. I work for one of the major banks and have access to personal loans at very low interest rates. I imagine that I would qualify for a personal loan to see me through, but really would prefer not to tie up my capital or pay interest anyway. My strong preference would be to arrange for a personal loan to back up the bank guarantee, but not actually draw down on it at all (or at least wait until settlement, if required at that stage). This way I don't actually have any interest costs, but the preapproved personal loan would ensure the bank has the money available if required. Is anyone aware of this as a possibility? It seems to be an ideal solution for me, but I need to make sure it is a viable option.

    I can't see how that could work. a pre-approval is not an approval. Even if you had a full approval I can't see how it could work without drawing down the loan

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    hi John

    Just do the sums for with a trust and with the place in a personal name. (although remember tax is just one aspect). If there is a loss see how long it will take to turn around. Factor in any tax savings you would have in your own name – buying in your own name could mean you can get another one sooner too.

    Then research trusts more, become familiar with all the roles in the trust – appointor, trustee, beneficiary etc. Learn as much as you can and then go and see an accountant to see if they recommend setting one up. By this time you should be able to follow their reasoning on why you should or shouldn't and you may know enough to know if they know enough!

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