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I helped a client in a similar situation.
They had a fully paid off main residence worth $1.2mil. They bought a new main residence for $1.2mil and had to borrow about $1mil to purchase it. That meant about $50k per year in non deductible debt while they were also paying tax on the $30k positve cashflow of the existing property.
Solution was that we sold it to the trustee of a unit trust with the individuals borrowing to acquire the units. So basically they borrowed $1.2mil and used this money to pay down their new main residence loan. $50k more deductions per year and no non-deductible debt.
In NSW they also get the land tax threshold.
We had private rulings from the ATO saying the interest was deductible and that Part IVA would not be used to deny the deduction.
OSR rprivate ruling was obtained so that we could be sure the land tax free threshold could apply.There was no CGT on the sale to the trust. Only stamp duty – which they borrowed to pay.
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moving money around between loans won’t increase deductions, but it will result in a mixed loan and may actually decrease teh amount of interest you can claim.
Seek tax advice.
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Joint owners are considered one owner for land tax purposes in NSW, so they don’t get one threshild each but a combined one.
Then if they own other property on their own their share of the joint property is taken into account so that they are not double taxed.
It is all very confusing.
This is why 2 people owning a few properties in in NSW will pay much less land tax than if they owned jointly.
Note that QLD is totally different
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If you enter an option agreement you would have an interest in the property and could seek out buyers of it.
Yes you could do that.
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if you do this without a solicitor you will get into trouble.
Under state law a residential lease has a minimum term of 6 months…The solicitor doing your conveyancing should be able to assist with a licence to occupy for a little bit more than you are paying for the conveyancing.
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That would form part of your costbase.
To work out the cost base we need to know the costs for the 5 elements described under Section 110-25 of the ITAA 1997 which are:
1. Money paid or required to be paid for the asset.
2. Incidental costs of acquiring the asset, or costs in relation to the CGT event, for example, stamp duty, legal fees, tax advice, and so on.
3. Non capital costs you incur in connection with your ownership, for example, interest, rates, land tax, repairs and insurance premiums (provided not previously claimed). Included are any expenses incurred while the property was an owner occupied property.
4. Capital expenditure you incur to increase the value of the asset, if the expenditure is reflected in the state or nature of the asset at the time of the CGT event.
5. Capital expenditure you incur to preserve or defend your title rights to the asset.
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You are buying an option on someone else’s property. They, the owners, are then finding a buyer to sell the property to. The buy would pay the owners a fee and because you have an option on the property the owners would have to pay you a fee to prevent you excerising your option.
It could work in NSW. No licence would be needed by you or by the owners for this.
The biggest impediment would be stamp duty.
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You mean your costbase?
No, those calcs are not correct. What about the value of the property when you received the gift?
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You will also need some tax advice on the loan structure. Borrowing and parking in the offset wil create another mess and the loan interest won’t be deductible – even if it is eventually used to invest.
Hey Terry, slight sidetrack here (sorry OP) but you’ve piqued my interest (no pun intended), would parking sleep at night funds (savings) in an offset account also result in loan interest not being tax deductible???
Nope that is fine.
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You will need some legal advice on the trust issues – sounds like it will be messy with multiple people being invovled. How will you pass on trust owned property on death on one or more of the people.
You will also need some tax advice on the loan structure. Borrowing and parking in the offset wil create another mess and the loan interest won’t be deductible – even if it is eventually used to invest.
Don’t make more rookie mistakes.
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Very unlikely you would be the sole beneficiary of a trust – unless it is a bear trust.
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I used to be a financial planner with the Dover group http://www.dover.com.au/. I suggest you contact them for a referral as they are one of the best groups out there – no banking ownership and all of their advice is checked by head office and a law firm for sign off.
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Ideally you would want to borrow to repair or improve an investment property – unless you have no non-deductible debt perhaps.
Richard’s idea is good. Perhaps you could use a related party loan to pay the tradesman and then refinance this with the bank once complete.
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1) I’ve been told that rent I pay to a landlord is tax deductible – I can’t find a single shred of info to prove this though, do I smell a porky?
Its a Porky Pie!
Or perhaps a half truth. Rent would only be deductible if it relates to the production of assessable income – such as operating a business from home (not a home office) and then it would need to be apportioned.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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He should seek specific tax advice.
There is no minimum period legiislated to make a property the main residence. It is not 6 months. Receiving a deposit will not generally be a separate tax issue. It is generally the date of entering the contracts (but not always).
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What do you mean by two lots?
You would have to pay stamp duty on your purchase and the person you sell it to would have to pay stamp duty as well, so that would be 2 lots.
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It will depend on the circumstances. Just using the property is not enough. It must become the residence.
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No minimum stay, but you need to establish the place as your main residence. So you must reside their exclusively for that period.
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Its simple really
Lets say you have a $100,000 investment loan at 4% pa and $20,000. Depositing the $20,000 in the offset account will save you $1,600 in interest per year. This means you have $1,600 in extra income and will pay tax on this.
Now if you put $20,000 in a term deposit at 4% you would have $1,600 per year in extra income and would pay tax on this.
Therefore you would only consider a term deposit over an offset account if:
a) the rate on the TD is greater than the rate on the loan, or
b) there is a spouse on a lower income who could invest in the term deposit and pay a lower rate.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Thanks terry.
This is very helpful. I am trying to set up an entity to get my first loan.
My affordability is a proble for me so i am thinking of setting up a pty ltd toincrease my affordability with my lender.
Thanks.How do you think this will increase your affordability?
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