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If you don't foresee any growth, then there is no real reason to keep it. Think about the opportunity cost as well.
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It may still be difficult even at 80% or less if you are a new contractor. It helps if you are in the same industry and the longer the contract the better,
Also if you are contracting you generally have more deductions you can claim so even up with a lower taxable income which doesn't help either.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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The problem is the contracting issues. The lender will be asking what will you be doing at the end of the contract. If u had 2 years history doing this it should be ok. But without that I doubt you would get over 80% LVR
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You won't be able to get a loan while on probation at 95% LVR.
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yep. especially if there is a probabtion period and a the LVR is above 80%. Best to get the loan first.
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How far you can go will depend on your incomes and rents.
You don't have to take the new loan from the same bank as the LOC.
However you may get a bigger discount by staying with one bank.
You should use an offset account for all incomes and rents and this should be on your PPOR loan. If you odn't have one then on an IP loan. You cannot have an offset on a LOC.
Splitting is not necessary as you should only be using the LOC for deposits and costs for IPs – no personal stuff.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Don't borrow money and put it in your offset or the interest may not be deductible.
Set up a LOC and have the $60k undrawn and sitting there waiting to be used.
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its not a matter of just telling your broker. You need to apply and set up another loan on property A in advance (ideally) of starting the loan for property B
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I would personally still use IO loans with a 100% offset account attached.
Because:
– money paid into a loan cannot be taken out without tax consequences
– you will still save the same interest as using a PI loan
– your repayments will be lower meaning you can afford more investments
– your repayments will be lower which will help if you get short of funds
– you can always pay extra on most IO loans if and when you chose to.But if you are temped to spend the cash that will build up in the offset account you may be better with PI
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Here is one major reason:
You have 2 properties valued $100,000 each. ie $200,000 in total.
You have 2 loans of $80,000 each.
each loan is secured by both properties (ie crossed)Things start to go bad in your personal life. You have a heart attack etc etc.
You try to sell property 1. no buyers so you drop the price to $90,000 and quickly find a buyer.
You need to apply to the bank to sell this house as it is used as security for loan 2 as well as loan 1.
So the bank needs to do a valuation of IP 2. It comes in at $90,000The bank requires the loan to be 80% LVR. 80% of $90,000 = $72,000
So not only have you taken a hit on the reduced sale price of your property, but now you need to pay down the remaining loan by $8,000 or the bank will not release the property.
This happened to a friend of mine in real life – but the figures were much worse. He had to come up with $40,000 cash to pay down the remaining property. He was selling the first one because he had no cash. So this meant he couldn't sell and the bank ended up repossessing both properties and I think he is bankrupt now.
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There is absolutely no reason to cross collateralise 2 or more properties. If the deal can be done with crossing, then it can also be done without crossing.
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Also some people can't help themselves with spending. If they have access to cash they spend it, so for them PI loans are a form of forced savings.
But I agree that you should only use a PI loan on an investment when you have no personal debt left
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What the broker is suggesting is cross collateralisation.
I am located in Sydney, but don't take on new clients anymore. I can refer you to someone if you send me your email.
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fWord wrote:Terryw wrote:When you use the equity in property A just think of it as borrowing from property A to fund property B.Thanks for the response. However in this case I understand that I have to pay interest as with any other loan. As such, is there any real advantage to drawing out equity instead of just borrowing from the bank? The bank would certainly look at my ability to service the loan while considering how much equity to allow me to draw upon. So, if I didn't have enough deposit for Property B in the first place, can I realistically still rely on Property A to fund part of my deposit?
Again this assumes I don't want to loan any more than 80%.
Yes, you will have to pay interest on all borrowed money. But what is the alternative?
if you cross collateralise you will be in a worse situation, security wise, and have a messy problem in years to come. You will also be borrowing more (same as my method) so it will cost you the same.
If you use cash, that is cash which could have gone off your PPOR loan which could have saved you non-deductible interest. It will also take time to keep saving for cash deposits.
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21 Jan email from bankwest:
No BAS Statements Required for Low Doc Home Loan
- Non-LMI Deals (LVR <=60%) require customers to have registered ABN for a minimum of 1 year.
- LMI deals (LVR 60%-80%) require the ABN registration for a minimum of 2 years;
- Customers' claiming income of >$75k will be required to have their GST registration in place for the same length of time as their ABN (minimum of 1 year for non-LMI deals / 2 years for LMI deals)
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Last i looked Suncorp will still do 80% Low Docs without BAS. Others out there too.
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A no doc loan is one in which you do not need to prove your income or declare an income.
Loans don't unsecure themselves, unfortunately, you will need to apply to your lender to vary their security. If the loan is less than 80% of the value of the remaining property securing the loan is usually possible.
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Its the same as becoming a lawyer. You still need 2 years acting under supervision before you can go out on your own.
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If you are using the PPOR as security for the commercial you would have to reduce the LOC by this amount. Longer term I would look at getting the commercial property to secure itself.
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Tightening is good.
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Carlito wrote:Hi Terryw,What would you do in my situation? Am I correct in saying that the most i can get for a LOC is $246,000?
I would like to borrow about 350,000 for my next IP but can I do this without CC my loans? LOC is only at $246,000 (if that's correct)
I just want my loan structure correct going forward.
Carlito
I would try to get a LOC on the PPOR.
$700,000 x 80% = $560,000Less current loans and subject to servicing.
Then buy the new place using a 80% loan and 20% from the LOC. No crossing of securities
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