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    dreamtobelieve wrote:
    Just trying to gain some clarification regarding the eligability for CGT exemption.

    How long must you have lived in a property for it to be considered your PPOR and therefore make you exempt from paying any CGT?

    The legislation does not specify a minimum time. Nor does the ATO tax ruling on this one.

    dreamtobelieve wrote:
    Practicality aside, would it not be possible to just move into each previous IP (one at a time), declare it as your sole PPOR and sell with CGT exemption? I know this generally wouldnt be practical, but if this was feasible the possible savings would surely be huge.

    D2B 

    No, this would not be possible because you can only count 1 property as your main residence at any 1 time.

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    Usually the 1st mortgage holder will have priority because of their mortgage. If they enforce their mortgage then any left over money will be available for the next in line. An option holder should lodge a caveat asap to protect their interest and their priority – if they don't and someone else gets a court order, the other person may come in before them.

    If you die your estate must still act in your shoes and the option won't expire (unless that is in your contract maybe).

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    CGT is exempt for main residences up to 5 acres only. So your property will be subject to CGT even if you live in it. It might be best put in a trust – but consider the land tax side of things too. This is complex as there are exemptions for primary producers etc.

    Usually when you die your property is left to a beneficiary in your will. There are usually no stamp duty of CGT when it is transferred, but there will be CGT when it is onsold by the beneficiary. They will usually be considered to have acquired the property at the price you paid for it, for CGT calcs.

    All states in Australia have laws against perpetuities, except SA. So if you set up your trust in SA it can last longer than 80 years – forever possibly!

    Trusts don't usually pay tax. Any CGT will be passed on to the beneficiaries and if a beneficiary is a natural person they should be entitled to the 50% discount (if held for 12 months or more). If a company were to receive the CG, then no discount.

    If you buy the property in your own name you may be able to claim the interest against your personal income, but this will depend on lots of factors such as what the property is being used for, or your intentions – eg to construct etc.

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    Couples only get 1 main residence between them. So if a husband and wife (or defacto) have one each, they can only claim the exemption on 1 at any 1 time.

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    Just remember negative geared properties will one day make a profit. So buying in your own name now may save some tax, but long term…..

    Trusts are separate entities for tax, so any losses cannot be used to offset your personal income.
    FHOG cannot be used for properties purchased in a trust.

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    I would recommend you have a read of the RTA see http://www.austlii.edu.au or google it – remember to look for the one from your state.

    Also look for the tenants union website of your state, this will contain a wealth of information on tenants rights/.

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    I think the wording of that special condition was a bit vague. Is it reasonable to be worry about such a problem?

    You may be able to terminate the contract on other grounds though. eg some of the required reports may have been missing etc. Better check with your solicitor

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    Are you asking if it is possible for the in-laws to borrow the 10% deposit to use when purchase a property.

    Generally personal loans are not available for this sort of thing.

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    Most lenders calculate interest on a daily basis. So putting your funds into the loan 1 day early will save you 1 day interest, and then you will be saving interest on interest etc. Compounding effect. Paying fortnightly means you are paying the equiv of 13 months per year, but you are also paying the funds into the loan sooner thereby saving you a few weeks interest on that repayment  as well as the compounding effect.

    But I agree that an offset account would be more ideal. As soon as your pay hits the offset account it will be saving you interest.Every day counts

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    I think you need to complain to the department of fair trading firstly. Then look to see if they are a member of any industry bodies – they may have something listed on their websites.

    I would love to know who it is – can't figure it out. Would you mind to PM me?

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    If you do it with the intention of selling then CGT won't apply and it will be income tax (ie no discount).

    Generally you can claim anything associated with building the property and holding costs, travel costs, accounting advice etc.

    Don't forget to factor in GST in your calculations too – you will need to charge the buyer 10% GST>

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    I would advise never to purchase in Thailand. I have extensive experience in Thailand and have seen many lose their money.

    Foreigners cannot own land, only units may be purchased, and even then it is extremely unwise for a number of reasons such as:
    – Political Instablity. There is a coup every 6 years on average. Look at the recent airport closures, red shirt problems etc. You may think this won't affect Phuket, but it will indirectly.
    – King. He is 82, what will happen when he dies – further instablity i suspect
    – Corruption. Thai society is extremely corrupt. Bribes happen daily in all levels of society
    – Rip offs. You will be ripped off in every transaction. More so being an absent foreigner. Everything you pay will have something added on top.
    – Any legal problems, courts generally favour Thais over foreigners. Police are easily bribed as a judges.

    Plus there are also the usual stuff with investing overeas, including:
    – You will unlikely to be able to get a loan, unless you are working in Thailand with a valid visa, even then low LVRs
    – Foreign language. Can you speak enough Thai to understand the legalities. Can you read?
    – Foreign currency fluctuations.
    – Difficulties to sell

    Why not just invest in Australia and rent a place in Thailand. Yields are lowish, so it is much cheaper to rent.

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    Yes, the PIT., Will it survive an audit?

    There are many problems with hybrid trusts. Depend on the date of your deed and the wording the interest may not be deductible at all, or partially deductible, or maybe even fully deductible.

    State doesn't matter for taxation matters as it is a commonwealth tax.

    Best to seek advice before you invest – and get it in writing.

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    Chiz,

    Are you confident it will survive an ATO audit?

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    number8

    Didn't think it was directed at me so no offence taken. Just couldn't see which post you were referring to.

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    The OSR may consider it an onsale to the nominee, I head that WA is very strict on this, but each State differs – which makes it hard to keep up with things. Let us know what your lawyer says.

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    number 8 wrote:

    Sorry, and who are you helping?????? I can answer that , that will be yourself…….

    http://www.birchcorp.com.au

    Who is this directed to?

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    Nathan_b wrote:
    I exchanged recently on a few in QLD and added special condition along with finance that I have the right to change purchase details before settlement. Check with your solicitor however.

    The vendor may allow this without too much drama, but please be careful in doing it as you may be assessed on stamp duty twice. You may also have problems if you set up an entity after the original contract was signed too – ie the entity wasn't in existance when the contract was entered into.

    BEst to check with a solicitor before doing anything like this.

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    Chiz wrote:
    Ah ha. I'm still learning (as expected). Don't want to hijack this thread but do you know anything about the Property Investment Trust? (is there another thread on this subject)

    Lots have changed since that book was written! There are a few old threads here about the PIT and the author of the book posted too. Mr Chan – forget his first name.

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    Chiz

    Units and hybrids technically also quarantine losses. ie losses from a trust cannot be used to offset personal income (A trust is a different entity for tax). But a way around this is where an individual borrows money to buy the units in the trust and the individual claims the interest on this loan.

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