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You could transfer the existing property to a trust, but there would be stamp duty payable on the full value.
There are also issues with asset protection. Transferring into a trust will reduce asset protection. Unit trusts also lack asset protection.
Then there are tax issues. If your property is negative cashflow, losses are trapped in the trust and cannot save your personal tax. If you use a unit trust and borrow to buy the units you may get around this, but it needs careful tax planning or the ATO may disallow it.
Discretionary trusts are very good, especially long term, but there are some draw backs.
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Thanks Mr. Its best to know the correct answer, even though it hurts.
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Trustees are assessed at the top rate on undistributed income, i beleive.
If might be better to distribute it to a company which then lends it back to the trust.
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yes, avoid cross coll
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This is like asking Is Mcdonalds the way to go for a healthy meal?
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LOCs generally have a slightly higher interest rate, so I would only use these for accessing equity. No point in using a LOC for the new purchase (the 80%) – just get a IO loan. A LOC would be ok, but only if you did not use it to put money in and out, just to pay the minimum in interest each month.
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going from memory, board is just reimbursements for expenses such as food, water, electricty etc.
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Ring the ATO again, twice more and you may get different answers. Also look at the PDF files at http://www.bantacs.com.au – i thnk htere is one called 'how not to be a property developer'
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there is no gift tax in Australia and you can't be liable for the debts of others – generally. I Think your safe
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I don't think that is correct, the cost base of the new land should be the value at the date of creation. Assuming you have a house on it now, it should all be CGT exempt (as long as its your main residence etc).
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Not if the 'boarders' were being charged more than the costs.
There are some rulings etc on the ATO site about this. I have some references, but ain't home at the moment.
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could be very dangerous for you. What if the work hasn't been done to the correct standards and the council ask you to demolish it.
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board is exempt from tax, but what you have described isn't really board – this is just receiving money to pay for costs such as food and electricity usage.
Also there are CGT implications. If you rent out part of your main residence then you will have to pay CGT on this portion when you sell.
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You can only have one main residence at any one time. When you sub-divide you will have two properties, so from the date of sub division only one can be your main residence. Vacant land can't be a residence. I think the new land once sub divided will have a cost base of the value at the date of sub-division – but i may be wrong.
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These days lending to a company complicates things and these loans are often pushed to the commercial sections. There is no real reason why the bank has to know the company is acting as the trustee, unless the banks ask.
Having a side agreement separate to the discretionary trust may be ok if things go well, but the trustee of the discretionary trust has absolute discretion over distributions, so who ever controls the trustee controls the distributions. Since there are 4 directors (which is risky) any 3 could gang up and deprive the 4th person of getting anything. The appointers control the appointment and removal of the trustee so the same thing could happen there. I think the unit trust is the safest route.
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I am not sure about this – I am not an accountant
The trustee is the legal owner of the business so it would have to transfer portions of the business to the beneficiaries. I guess it could be done. There may be CGT implications though.
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largely, depends on the trustee. These days it is getting harder to get loans for companies – often goes through the business section.
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I think you accountant is wrong – or you misinterpreted what you where told.
Firstly trusts don't have directors, but trustees. If the trustee is a company, then the company will have a director.
Discretionary trusts are the best method of asset protection as no beneficiaries have any interest in the trust. This means if a beneficiary goes bankrupt the assets of the trust are not up for grabs – this is confirmed by the Bankruptcy Act, that assets held on trust are not available to creditors. of course, if you have to give personal guarantees, then your personal assets will be at risk.
A family trust is just a discretionary trust. The trusts beneficiaries will often include most of your relatives, whether living or yet to be born, even future adpoted chidlren etc, so it is very broad and flexible for tax savings. If you have no one at the moment, you could distribute to a company and cap the tax at 30% – soon to be 28% and eventually divert funds out at a later date.
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Not sure exactly what you mean by equity – are you asking if the people who loaned money take a percentage of the business instead of getting their money back? If so, wouldn't it be better if the trust were to use the losses to offset the gains and repay the loans?
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If buying jointly, then too risky to use someone you don't know – what if they stop paying the loan = you will be left with it.
A better way may be a lease option type deal where they own it and you pay rent, with part of the rent going towards the price you will pay for the property.
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