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Yes.
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You will be basically refinancing one loan into two separate loans. Names on the loans doesn't really matter as it will be X borrowing and then onlending to X and Y to pay out the CBA.
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I have been a big fan of IO loans for a long time but you should also consider your psychology. Some people just can't help themselves and will spend every last cent of spare cash lying around – for these sorts of people a PI loan may be better in the end.
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A trust only takes half an hour to set up. It is a relationship evidenced via a deed. Some all you need, once you have worked out what roles people will play, is some signatures. After that your deed may need stamping, depending on the State it is established in (QLD never had this requirement in the past, not sure if things have changed). Usually you can set the deed up and worry about stamping much later.
Whether banks treat loans for trusts as commercial or not will largely depend on the trustee – if it is a company or not. I am not aware of any lenders that restrict lending to 80% for trusts.
Trustees can be liable and their personal assets at risk if they are sued in their capacity as trustee. Having a company is much safer – but whether you need a company or not will depend on what the trust is doing, eg if just investing in shares, then there is no risk. If investing in property the risk is low, if investing in business then the risk is very high. Having individual trustees also makes things easier in terms of getting loans.
Assets held in trust are also exempt assets for bankruptcy purposes, so discretionary trusts are very good for asset protection – no matter who the trustee is.
A family trust is just another name for a discretionary trust. Its not the name that is important but the wording of the deed, so you may have a trust called Smith Family Trust, but you could have non family members as beneficiaries as well.
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You will need to pay stamp duty as you are onselling the land.
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Good question. Don't know the answer though!
I think the purchase price would remain the same with the money for the damages to be classed as income which could then be offset by the cost of the repairs – But I am not sure about this.
Was it a large amount? and did you or will you conduct the repairs?
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Generally I would recommend only using a LOC to access existing equity. This should only be used for investment expenses – no salary deposited nor any withdrawals for private expenses etc.
For the new property I would suggest a IO loan with the deposit coming from the LOC.
Have the offset account attached to a PPOR loan as the interest on this isn't tax deductible. All rents and wages should go into this.
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LMI can be a bit like that. Try to keep enquiries to a minimum and just try to explain your way out of this one.
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You would be borrowing to pay personal expenses and therefore the interest wouldnt be deductible. Talk to your tax advisor about borrowing to pay interest on investments freeing up cash to use on your PPOR loan.
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itsandrew wrote:hi Terryw,I have been reading about the 6 year thing with CGT but as I am new to this stuff I don't fully understand how it works. Does it mean you can rent out a property for 6 years and not pay CGT if you have lived in it previously? Does this mean you can have an alternative PPOR during this time?
Andrew
Yes – but you can only claim one main residence at any one time.
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hi Hong
It is possible to lease out your home and avoid CGT in certain circumstances. You will need to live in it before leasing it out, and must be less than 6 years etc. It is the temporary absence from main residence rule, s118-145 ITAA
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I am not sure, that is something that you should discuss with your accountant. There is a chance the ATO could look at it as some sort of scheme, so it may be wise.
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Say the rent was $20,000 pa. Expenses were $10,000 and depreciation $5,000
Profit = income – expenses
= $20,000 – ($10,000 + 5,000)
= $5,000This would be the taxable income of the trust which could then be distributed.
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Keeping in mind PBRs are only binding on the person who lodges the request look at this one. Look at the ATOs reasoning and you will get a good idea how it works:
PBR 83291
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Hi GOM
1. Depreciation and other costs come off the income of the trust. So it won't actually reduce the interest, but reduce the profit.
2. yes, if there is a profit this will be distributed in accordance with the deed. Usually there are a wide class of beneficiaries and the distribution can be made at the trustee's discretion.
There are also some private rulings regarding renting from you own trust. WIll dig them up and post links soon.,
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Hi Spiro
Compared to other countries (and to the old days here) I think Australia loans are very innovative. 100% offset accounts, LOCs, LOC + capitalising interest, 30 year terms, etc
Rememebr the old days, back to Jan Somers books even not that far back, there was only PI loans and maybe IO loans if you were lucky – and that was it.
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Hi Banker
I didn't think there were many lenders these days that allowed income guarantees from parents who are not on title.
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or just get the parents to onlend the 20% to you.
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Guarantors don't have any effect on you claiming anything. So you should be able to claim the interest on the whole loan amount (if the property is rented out).
You parents will be givening an equity guarantee, so you will still have to demonstrate to the bank that you can service the whole amount to be borrowed. They will also have to put up their property as security so it generally (but not always) has to be with the same lender as your loan. It would probably be safer for them if they just lent you the money.
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yes its legal.
Legal implications would include to make sure the trustee is acting in the best interests of the trust. You could do this by making sure everything was done properly at commercial rates etc.
Tax implciations would include taking into account any losses would be trapped in the trust. If there are losses then you may need to consider a family trust election. Loss of CGT exemption and payment of land tax.
Also consider the trust supplying furniture etc. ie rent if furnished.
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