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    GOM

    I beleive bank staff do get commissions – for both loans, insurance and other products.

    With some banks sometimes clients can get larger discounts going direct, other times brokers can get them larger discounts

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    Hi 8

    Well, its not entirely his fault. He rang up the bank he was already with to make some general enquiries and they ask his name etc to just pull up his details. They then issue a number so that if they did later try to go to a broker the bank will say they were approached first.

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    That's why good brokers need to charge a small upfront fee – otherwise they end up doing all the work and then the client goes straight to the bank!

    An old client and friend did it to me this week. Countless phone calls, and then he says he just rang up the bank direct and asks if he can send me their email and explain it to him. He sends it across and it already has the loan application number on it.

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    To that I would ask:
    – do you think these would be good investments>?
    – Do you think there will be growth in values?
    – allowing for 10% deposit and 4% costs could you even afford one?
    – Did you realise that there may be higher deposit requirements for some regional areas?
    – Did you factor in extended vacanies and cost of repairs – what happens if the hotwater system needs replacing?

    Having said this there are some bargins out there.

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    Sorry Goldie. Not meaning to be negative but realistic.

    You will need around 10% deposit for a property, and then costs such as stamp duty etc – best to allow 4 to 5%.
    Your existing property as at 90% LVR too, which is very high.

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    Why sell at all? – maybe for tax reasons?

    I would suggest you sit down with some paper or a spreadsheet and work out the financial position of all scenarios. Then factor in the non financial considerations and then decide.

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    Hi

    You don't really have much equity at the moment, so best to keep saving and to keep reading.

    You wouldn't want to use cash for your investment as this cash could be going onto your home loan to reduce your interest – which isn't deductible.

    Also best not to use redraw and it complicates things – the interest on the money redrawn should be deductible, so you should create a separate account for this so that you can separate the interest.

    I would suggest you look at depositing the savings in the loan, and then setting up a new split for $27,000 – or maybe wait longer as this is not enough to do much with. But don't do anything until you talk to your broker and tax advisor.

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    Gary78 wrote:
    Terryw wrote:
    Just ask all those who took out loans with RAMS or GE. I think they assumed something similar.

    Am I wrong in believing the reason they are currently in a bad position is that the exit fees on those loans are outlandishly expensive? Won't this scenario be removed with the legislation being brought in on July 1?  I'm trying to read and learn as much as I can on all of this so if I have the wrong understanding it'd be nice to be corrected.

    I think the exit fees are only part of the reason. I think there was a rate increase and then many wanted to get out – but were stuck with the fees. There are a few threads on this forum re this.

    I haven't looked at the new legislation, but would doubt that there would be anything to prevent rate increases.

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    Just ask all those who took out loans with RAMS or GE. I think they assumed something similar.

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    It could be a significant savings, but you are assuming:
    – rates remain the same
    – your loan runs full term

    What if you:
    – want an offset account
    – want an increase
    – want to fix down the track
    – exit after x years
    – refinance after x years because they cannot lend you any more

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    I agree with banker. Having worked as a broker for 9 years I also would never use anyone but a bank, and never a mortgage manager.

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    My answers, not having read the above answers.

    1. Yes, interest will be charge as soon as you use the money.

    2. Rent should be paid into your 100% offset account attached to your home loan, ideally. From there you can direct debit it. You cannot rely on the rent to pay the interest as it will vary each month, and sometimes will be late.

    3. There are tax implications to this, but ideally you could borrow from the loc to pay the shortfall – talk to your tax advisor

    4. No. A LOC is not an offset and putting extra money in there, even temporarily, will result in tax issues if you ever need access to that money. It would also make more sense to place any money into an offset account against you home loan instead as this will save you deductible interest.

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    Generally banks won't take it into account as they consider it a one off event, but if you are doing it consistantly you may be able to argue you are doing it as a business. But then you run the risk of them treating you as a commerical client and they may also worry they will just fund you and then you will sell again – discharing their loan.

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    Actually there is a requirement for beneficiaries to be determined with certainty and it can't be too broad. I recall hearing one story that someone tried stapling the white pages to his trust deed and have everyone listed as a beneficairy – but this didn't work.

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    Discretionary trusts offer the best asset protection too.

    Most deeds are worded so as they include future people too – those not yet born such as kids, grandkids should be covered too.

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    Hi Andrew

    I am not entirely sure of the full features – but it appears from what is written above that they don't allow direct debits and have minimum balance requirements etc.

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    Some points
    What about the splitting of income with your wife. You earn $60k, she earns $5k. You are wasting her tax free threshold as she can earn up t $16k without paying tax.

    You also say you have a mortgage of $300k. If so I would not be putting down a cash deposit on the investment property. I would put this cash on the home loan and then reborrow it to use for the investment.

    If you set your business up through a trust or a company with the shares owned by a trust you could divert money to your IP trust so that any loss is offset and you save yourself tax.

    Then you only have to consider the land tax issues

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    On the deductibility issue see
    TR 2000/2 Income tax: deductibility of interest on moneys drawn down under line of credit facilities and redraw facilities
    http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=TXR/TR20002/NAT/ATO/00001

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    yes you can. Offsets are usually just like normal savings accounts – except for CBA.

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    But if you moved out it would be too late. Your whole loan may be undeductible.

    When you originally borrowed the money it would have been used to purchase the house, but as you put money into the loan this is a repayment. When you take money out this is new borrowings. So the original borrowings used for the house purchase may be rapidly reduced to nil, and the new borrowings for personal expenses may be increasing, so the net effect is a high loan balance with hardly any of it attributable to the house and therefore not deductible. All this could be avoidable if using an IO loan with offset.

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