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    TR 2000/17W

    Income tax: deductions for interest following the Steele decision

    http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?locid=%27TXR/TR200017/NAT/ATO%27&PiT=99991231235958

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    yes. see the Steele case for authority.

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    stamp duty at market rates too.

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    I have all 3, ANZ, NAB, and Westpac. I prefer Westpac the best, although their rates are too high. ANZ a close second – they used to have 2 different types of offset, one which didn't kick in until $2000 balance. NAB are a pain in the butt wanting too many questions answered. You shouldn't need to pay any account fees on these banks loans under their packages.

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    Making sure that the payments are going to pay the loan on the property will help, but it doesn't cover a situation where there are others with competing interests in the property.

    Exchanging contracts does give a buyer an equitable interes in the property, but there could be others with equitable interests too – such as spouses (or even mistresses) under the Family Law Act, creditors etc. There are rules for determining priority – which are complex. But generally first registered takes priority over later, registered over non registered etc.

    Having a caveat can help get priorty over similar claims. There is a case, Black v Garnot, where someone exchanged contracts on a property. One the day of settlement the conveyancing solicitor did a title search about 10am, then someone lodged a writ which was recorded about 11am, with settlement due at 2pm. The end result was that the buyer could not register the transfer because someone had lodged a claim before them and therefore took priority. The property was sold and the proceeds used to pay the judgment of the creditor who lodged the writ. If the purchaser had lodged a caveat they would have taken priority – but they didn't. This is why now all solicitors should advise that a caveat be lodged after exchange and before settlement, just in case. Anyway, this just shows what can go wrong.

    I am not sure, but maybe a second unregistered mortgage would take priority over someone lodging a caveat, depending on their claim.

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    As as buyer I think your biggest risk is that the vendor still retains title and will have the property mortgaged. If they don't pay their loan, or other loans, or are sued for something totally unrelated, then the bank could take repossession of the property.

    Lodging a caveat will prevent them dealing further with that property and may help you take priority over other potential creditors.

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    I would suggest look at buying the relative out and then set up LOCs on one or both properties. Use these for deposits on the next IP purchase. Always keep a buffer of around 6 months to 12 months repayments available and borrow no more than 80%.

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    There are two issues – equity and serviceablity. You will need both.

    If you borrowed 95% and your property hasn't gone up much, then you have hardly any equity. If the proeprty has gone up then you will need to squeeze out at least 10% for the new purchase. 5% deposit and 5% for costs.

    For the income you can take potential rent into account as well as your income, but having a personal loan will hurt because of the high interest rates and shorter term. If might be wise to use the $10k to pay this down and try to pay it off asap.

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    The ATO has released a ruling basically saying borrowing to pay interest is deductible if the original interest is deductible.

    It could be a good idea if you still have a non deductible loan as you can free up cash flow to pay down that faster. But you really are only bring forward the deduction – so whether it is good to do will depend on this fin years income and next. If you have a high income this year and expect a low one next then you may get more tax savings by bring it forward.

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    A LOC is not really necessary, a simple IO loan would do.

    This is why going with a non bank lender is not always ideal!
    – difficult to access equity
    – other products may not be so cheap
    – highish exit fees.

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    Terryw wrote:
    Just take a LOC out on the PPOR with CBA.

    Use the LOC to pay for the deposit and costs of the new property and borrow the rest from another bank.

    Sorry, I should have written myrate instead of CBA

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    Yes, Scott, good point. You may get through if they don't check too thoroughly.

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    Just take a LOC out on the PPOR with CBA.

    Use the LOC to pay for the deposit and costs of the new property and borrow the rest from another bank.

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    Daba

    what does your option agreement say? And what did your lawyer say? The wording of your agreement will tell you what you have to do.

    I think assignment means the transferring of the rights associated with the agreement. Nomination means to appoint.

    If you assign an option agreement you would probably receive the fee upfront. The assignee would then nominate themselves on the contract of sale of land.

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    Bankwest used to be good for major franchises too.

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    Technicallly yes that is the case, but you know banks. If it is the same person behind the scenes they treat it the same. I had a client doing this a few years ago and they ended up buying in a brother's name.

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    Matt, they still would class that as owner builder

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    You need to get a bit creative. Make it work in your favour.

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    Just upsell, 'would you like a loan with that?'

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    Generally can't use two lenders if you only have one security.

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