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A good source for legal books are the uni second hand bookshops. They have heaps of previous edition books cheap – but still very up to date.
Then just read articles on law firm websites and get on a few mailing lists. Also read the forums.
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There is nothing really advanced out there but you could start getting technical by reading tax articles and rulings etc and law articles in relation to the legal and tax aspects of property investing.
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There was an article in the newspaper today about Rick Otton, a promoter of vendor finance strategies.
It is an interesting read:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-11/buy-a-house-for-$1-claims-slammed-as-deceptive-misleading/8798492Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Hey David,
Found property west brisbane (logan) sale price $120,000 for a 3b that needs major work,
get loan for $150,000 at 80 lvr, use your remaining cash for the $50,000 of work needed,now you have a property worth $220-245k renting for 230-260 per week and done all that within a 2-4 month timeframe.Hi Jaxon,
If David does this, sold the property for 245k, made the profit around 245-50-150=45k, but this happened within 12 month which means no capital-gain exemption, the net profit will only be 20k roughly, is it worthy to take so much risk for 20k? please teach me, thanks a lot.
Best regards,
AaronCGT probably would not apply in this situation – just income tax.
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So let’s say the SMSF has $80,000 and the member has $80,000, and the property is $250,000 and cost of renovation $25,000 – How would you structure the Joint Venture so that it doesn’t breach and sis act? Would either the SMSF, member or both be able to obtain loan of $165,000?
It would be difficult. A SMSF cannot borrow unless the asset is held by a custodian trustee. A SMSF trustee can borrow up to 80% of the property value but it cannot borrow to improve an asset.
You will need to seek specific legal advice on how to structure something like this.
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Just make sure you get good legal advice along the way, otherwise an unexpected stamp duty bill could turn a profit into a loss.
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As an update, we didn’t further our time in this course and have since contacted Steve’s “Property Apprenticeship” program and its a quarter of the cost.
Thanks for everyone’s input.Good on ya!
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A SMSF and a member can jointly purchase property together as tenants in common. Or both could be unit holders of a fixed trust.
A Joint venture is possible but they way you described would breach the sis act.
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The stamp duty will depend whether it is a dutiable transaction. If there is a contract to purchase land, an option or an assignment etc it would be a dutiable transaction and duty would be payable.
If you don’t have any of the above how will your secured you profits?
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it could work in theory, but what stamp duty savings!
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I would say it would be extremely difficult to find an owner to agree and it would be risky to renovate a property you do not own.
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What do you want to know? I have done a few vendor financing deals before but probably would not do again.
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Just terminate the contract, get a refund and have the trustee enter the contract and pay its own deposit – if you want to use a trust that is. you can lend the trust the money which it can use to pay the deposit.
Yes, I am happy to take new clients on – I charge $660 for a 2 hour consultation.
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Hi Terry,
Thanks for your response. Good to hear that it might not be as difficult as I am hearing to borrow through a corporate trustee/trust structure.
I have gotten and paid for legal advice regarding this situation, but now am a bit concerned I haven’t gotten the best legal advice. How could we get asset protection and the main residence CGT exemption? We don’t want to put the property in just my name (it has been suggested and debated) as I also plan to start my own business in the next few years, and don’t want our properties to be exposed to any potential creditors – hence the reason for the trust and a corporate trustee. We also want the advantage of income streaming later on for the rental income, as I will likely be at home with kids in about 5 years time.
With regards to the deposit already being paid, our current lawyer has advised us that we can still change the nominee on the contract of sale as we have not settled yet (the land is still not titled) and the vendor has no objection to us making this change. Is this incorrect? We unfortunately realized our asset protection issues after we signed the contract of sale in our individual names and our trust isn’t set up yet, but we have been told that this can still be changed?
Regards,
CelinaI think you might need additional or further advice.
Although you could do what you are proposing consider the arguments a trustee in bankruptcy could use against you. Research resulting trusts.
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I am a lawyer and broker specialising in trusts. lending to trustees is pretty much the same as it has always been. Not difficult and not much tightening up.
But I think you need to seek legal advice as there are better ways to structure your set up where you can get both asset protection and the main residence CGT exemption.
Also watch out for the asset protection trap you are falling in – you have already paid the deposit.
Keep in mind that trusts are not legal entities and cannot borrow or enter contracts. It is the trustee that does. Carefully structuring the trustee and the trust can allow for greater serviceability and more asset protection.
Get proper legal advice and tax advice before moving further.
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Hi all
As title suggests.
While I understand the concept and theory about how when using Interest Only loan, for the first 5 years (or 10 years if I get an extension), I benefit from paying less monthly repayment and even though I pay more interest in the end, but those “more interest” are all in the end tax deducible.
However, I want to use an example..
Suppose let’s say I have a property on 440K loan, with interest rate 4.45% and paying P&I. The monthly repayment is 2200 while it generates roughly 1200 interest per month.
If going with IO with 5% interest rate, then for the first 5 years it is really great, I only pay 1800 while the interest being generated would be higher than 1200 (probably closer to 1400), but starting from 6th year, I need to pay 2600 per month while my rental income wouldn’t have increased by 400 per month (I think it is unlikely)…. so while I am getting more cash on hands for the first 5 years, but starting from the 6th year, I am actually forking out more cash from my own pocket due to increased monthly repayment and rental income not catching up to the increased monthly repayment….
So my question is how does that work out to be “better”?In the good old days people could just keep extending the IO terms on the loans. This is probably no longer practical to do and may not be even possible for most.
Where it was possible it used to help in a number of ways with the 2 main ones being:
a) building up a large cash buffer which could be used for a quicker and more tax effective retirement,
b) lower cash flow allowing more investments to be made.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Yes even positive cash flow property can hurt serviceability because the notional repayment the lender takes exceeds the cash flow.
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On a more random note, a query about serviceability in above mentioned trust structure, is an individuals credit rating taken into account when the salary is used to service investments
Yes. but which individual will depend on how the trust is structured.
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hello can I be held accountable for repairs 10 days after settlement when the purchaser has done an inspection prior to settlement as well as a builders inspection.
Deepends.
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Is this a breach of my freedom to live a lifestyle a choose to be able to save and move ahead.
No.
But you will need to prove that the property was your principal place of residence to avoid having to give back any grants and fines.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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