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    Don't forget that if you want to earn cc points, then don't let the agents pay your bills, but pay them yourself using your credit card. After you have a few properties it can all add up – rates, water, insurance etc.

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    JacM wrote:
    On this topic, are there any real estate agents that accept credit card for property purchase deposits?  I really fancy the idea of earning half a holiday worth of frequent flyer points for my troubles of purchasing a property.

    If anyone knows of any agencies that accept credit cards for this purpose, I would love it if you could list them here!

    I doubt there would be any for 2 reasons:
    1. They have to pay a fee on the transation. I think it is around 2%

    2. The deposit would need to go straight into a trust account.

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    Napiers Financial Services Group PTY LTD wrote:

    If what your trying to do is earn credit points on your creditcard, an option you have is to deposit all your earnings into your mortgage and live off your creditcard (earning credit points) and pay it in full out of your mortgage each month. You would have to get a loan set up that gave you that facility and also you would have to be quite diciplined to make sure less goes out than you put in!  

    Make sure you don't do this if your mortgage is deductible.

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    Qlds007 wrote:
    Sorry Terry just late in reading up on old posts.

    Yes i do not have a PDF on the API article and am happy to send it to anyone who wants to read it.

    Hi Richard – do not have or have?

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    Would help if you gave an area where you want to look

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    Ditch CBA and Try NAB.

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    Err, Richard is a broker.

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    The FIRB is not concerned with borrowings, just the purchase. You can borrow – the only problem is finding a lender willing to accept you which won't be easy as you work is temporary in nature.

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    Safer to just invest in shares maybe????

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    TD 95/9http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?locid=%27TXD/TD959/NAT/ATO%27&PiT=99991231235958
    TD 95/8http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=TXD/TD958/NAT/ATO/00001

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    Yes, your trust will need a separate bank account. You are not your trust and you should not be treating the trust's money as your own or you may be breaching your fiduciary duties. Failure to distinguish the trust's assets from your own may also mean it is a sham trust or not a real trust. Not a good asset protection strategy.

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    There was another recent case in the NSWDC involving a landlord, Giovenco v Dick [2010] NSWDC 4.

    Exposed wire on the roof from a disconnected solar heater killed a person and the landlord and plumber were ordered to pay approx $800k to the widow,
    see http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/dcjudgments/2010nswdc.nsf/2010nswdc.nsf/WebView2/C018EE676B0636F9CA2576C40011825A?OpenDocument

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    buymore wrote:
    i only just found out about it today. i will write a termination letter to them today.

    Another way of looking at it is that they will be likely to be much more careful in the future, whereas other agents  may not be as aware of the dangers.

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    Firstly, that bit about unlimited borrowing capacity is not correct. A trust won't really help borrowing capacity in the way you think because of personal guarantees.

    Secondly, it is never too late – but you will probably be up for stamp duty again unless you could establish that the trust existed before the contract was signed and the person signing it was signing as trustee. Best to speak with your lawyer as there may be other ways to do it.

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    Sounds like the daughter may have appointed herself as appointor of the trust as she was involved with its set up. Do you have a copy of the trust deed? And who owns the shares to the company – I assume this is the trusee?

    The daughter has probably borrowed against the property or used it as security maybe too.

    If the mum is a beneficiary of the trust she could also probably put a caveat on these properties to prevent their sale or mortgage.

    Best to get all the info you can together and go see a lawyer.

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    Hi

    I have looked at the legislation previously and recall, maybe…., that it says something like will be the principle residence of the parties…

    So you have to convince the OSR that you are only temporarily absent and will be moving back to the property in the near future.

    There is no reason to transfer the home to access the equity for the next property. You can leave it in your name and do it. Changing it now will mean reborrowing (if there is a loan on it) and this could mean loan exit fees/app fees, valuations and other charges. You would also need a conveyancer/lawyer to do the conveyance – maybe $1000.

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    Was it a gift or a loan? Gifts are generally non refundable, but it is possible to get the money back in some instances. If she controls the trust then she can sack the company as trustee and appoint herself as trustee. Subject the to wording of the deed, she could then distribute all the assets of the trust to herself.

    If the directors of the company are acting illegally they may have breached the corporations act and the trust act and maybe other laws. She may be able to sue them to recover lost money.

    I suggest she see a lawyer about this and about winding up the trust and distributing its assets and also see a tax advisor too if the lawyer doesn't do tax as there may be tax issues – depending on how the assets are held there may be CGT, stamp duty and income tax issues too,

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    If you are so unsure maybe you should keep learning. You don't want to go too tight too, make sure you have a buffer for when things go wrong.

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    Hi Morgo

    I don't think you fully realise the implications. This is your home and is on one title, so renting out a part of it would mean you will probably pay CGT when its sold – where normally it would be exempt.

    Since it is one title you can't really do anything with the loans.

    And there is not much you can do with a trust as to transfer the home would cost stamp duty and you would then have totally lose the CGT emeption on the property.

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    He would be referring to CGT there. If held for more than 12 months individuals can get the 50% discount. so if you buy $50,000 worth of shares and they jump to $150,000 the gain is $100,000 but you are assessed on $50,000 of this only.

    Companies do not get this discount. Trusts usually distribute income and if they distribute to an individual they would get it. A business is not a separate tax entity (unless you mean company) and it would be the entity behind it that is taxed. A trust is also not a separate legal entity really but is treated as one for tax purposes.

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