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    edskii wrote:
    Hi all, First post here so please take it easy on me. Here's the scenario, brother and I are looking at doing a straight swap his for mine. what's the best way to minimize the stamp duty? Do we have to transfer the houses at market value? Say if we were to transfer the houses under market value in order to minimize the stamp duty, and at later stage sell the house. In theory, CGT then would be more because the initial price was too low. Any advice??? thanks all

    Stamp duty is payable at market values, as is CGT.

    The best way to avoid this is to keep as is.

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    You would just settle $10 usually. Otherwise you would pay stamp duty on the whole amount settled.

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    My idea of risk is more like the unforeseen circumstances – job loss, sickness, change in bank policy, drop in values etc. All this can happen – even if you can service now you may not be able to in the future.

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    Sounds like a related party transaction to me.

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    Terryw wrote:
    The settlor has to be a person – natural or company. I think a settlor can be a beneficiary, but this will introduce tax problems. But I have never looked into this – although i did see one client who had his son as settlor for some reason.

    Why create the uncertainty? Just set up the deed here and get joe blow to be settlor – someone who you will never want to distribute to.

    Dan

    The tax consequences for allowing a settlor to be a beneficiary are covered under s102 ITAA 1936.
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1936240/s102.html

    I think this basically boils down to if the settler can benefit under the trust then the income of the trust could be taxed at the top rate of the settlor.

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    Sounds like a scheme to defraud the ATO to me!

    There are many issues to consider. Firstly it is an arrangement by related parties so will be scrutinised more closely during an audit.

    – You must pay market rent to your dad if he wants to claim the interest.
    – Stamp duty considerations on the transfer of title
    – CGT for your dad when the transfer is done
    – Income and CG's effect on your dad's pension if and when he applies
    – If you qualify for the FHOG you could possibly avoid stamp duty and get the grant when you transfer title – but all people on title need to qualify.
    – Names on title will need to be names on the loan.
    – Ownership transfer is not that easy. You may need a solicitor to do it. You will need to change loans at this time as well

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    You should look up the websites of the bodies you want to join and then download app forms and see if they ask the question. I think bankruptcy may hinder any job which involves money. You could be a lawyer though!

    With trusts the ownership of an asset is legally with the trustee. So long as you were not the trustee you would be right. But you would need someone else willing to take that position (or director of the trustee company) and the risk, as they would also need to guarantee the loans of the trust.

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    I think it would depend on if he thinks he could get a better return elsewhere after taking selling costs into account.

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    1. The borrowing expenses themselves can be claimed over 5 years or the term of the loan if shorter. If you borrow to pay the borrowing expenses then the interest on this should be deductible too (eg capitalising LMI)

    2. If you borrow to pay rates and other expenses then the interest on this would also normally be deductible if it is an investment property.

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    Very risky – Don't stretch yourself too far. What happens if you don't have enough cash to settle in 2013?

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    Matt

    If you are not happy why not just leave? – probably because of the exit fees? You could at least threaten to leave by requesting a pay out figure.

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    If you are working in the finance industry you will have problems – it may be impossible or very difficult to gain membership to professional bodies if you have been bankrupt in the past 10 years – This used to be the case in mortgage broking and financial planning and probably with accounting too.

    If you want to borrow and cannot all you need to do is to have someone to help you out and buy in there name. Maybe some sort of trust arrangement.

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    The settlor has to be a person – natural or company. I think a settlor can be a beneficiary, but this will introduce tax problems. But I have never looked into this – although i did see one client who had his son as settlor for some reason.

    Why create the uncertainty? Just set up the deed here and get joe blow to be settlor – someone who you will never want to distribute to.

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    Buying a house is a huge expense – if you do it yourself and stuff it up who can you blame? If you get part way through and can't do it then you will need to pay a lawyer to sort it out anyway so why take the risk?

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    John – you don't say if you are a resident in Australia for tax purposes (this is different to your immigration status – you could be a resident for immigration purposes but a non resident for tax). If so then I suspect you will be able to claim the Australian home as your main residence. There is no minimum period required to live in a house to make it your main residence – it will depend on the circumstances.

    Tony – I don't think the FIRB could help, FIRB deals with foreigners investing in Australia, not tax, nor the OSR for Capital Gains tax as this is a commonwealth tax collected by the ATO.

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    Must be WA – they are high over there.

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    Whose book? Steve McKnights?

    There is no need to register a trust. In many states stamp duty may be payable on the trust deed though.

    Whether you have a mortgage on your house shouldn't matter, you can still get a trust started and you could even get a loan in the name of the trust, such a LOC but using your house as security.

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    WW are you sure?

    My understanding is that a property cannot become your main residence until you have lived in it. Not that it will make much difference as any capital growth during the first 4 months will be minimal.

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    tell them you want a cheque – then deposit it in the account.

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    Mine was a new block with a new house – never lived in which meets the definition of new under the act. I have some notes on the research I did somewhere.

    I will report back tomorrow and in the meantime, You should look at the primary legislation which is the GST Act http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/antsasta1999402/

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