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    What about talking to a lawyer about partitioning the land. You can buy 50% now and enter into a deed of partition with your mum. You then later divide the land and can do so without stamp duty if the portions transferred as the same as the partition agreement.

    Otherwise you may find you pay stamp duty going in and then stamp duty on subdivision as well as you will be changing ownership then.

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    Hi M

    I don't know much about the tax aspects and less about GST, but a trustee company can register for GST if it is conducting a business. But this is not recommended due to the risks associated with business – ie don't have your property owned in the same trust as a business. A GST is collected it would need to be paid to the ATO with BAS statement lodgement. reporting is generally every 3 months, but it can be done yearly in some instances.

    If the company is only acting as trustee then there is no income and the trust would be the one lodging tax returns and BAS statements.

    If a trust is renting premises then the costs associated with this could be claimed, if it is running a business for example. you could charge your trust rent for a home office, but then this would be income to you and may result in the loss of the CGT exemption on your house too. It may be a good idea if you are renting the house though. I think the trust would only be able to claim the GST back if it is registered for GST.

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    Yes I agree with the others, you can't transfer the debt from a tax point of view, but you could possible sell the property to your spouse who could borrow the lot to buy it. The loan would then be 100% deductible. Depending on the State it is in it may be stamp duty exempt (eg vic), but even if you have to pay stamp duty it may still be worthwhile in the long run due to the savings.

    Another option is to just sell half to the spouse – or enough to release $200k to pay off the non-deductible debt. This should save stamp duty at least.

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    What do you need to know?

    Depreciation is claimed by the owner of the property = the 'trust'. If you trust is running at a loss, which it probably will in the early years, then you cannot offset private income and will, ideally, need to direct other income into the trust to offset this.

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    Equity and loans are different. You are confusing the 2 i think

    If you take money out of a loan or borrow more money then you pay interest. But a way around this is to only take the money when you need it. To do this you can set up a loan now, such as a LOC, and withdraw the money later when it is needed. You would then only pay interest from the date of withdrawal.

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    Its worth looking into as it can free up cash which can pay down non-deductible debt and this will save you tax long term which will hopefully make up for the stamp duty costs.

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    Double posting

    I have already posted here
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/help-needed/4335239?#comment-227926

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    luke86 wrote:
    If your trust provides services, then the assets held in the trust can be claimed should the trust b sued for any reason. This is generally not recommended for this asset protection reason.

    Why not set up a second trust that provides the services to provide better protection for your assets?

    Cheers,
    Luke

    Or even a company as directors of trustee companies trading can be personally held liable for debts of the trust.

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    Transfer = selling, so don't forget to factor in the stamp duty.

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    You cannot change ownership without paying stamp duty – generally, an exemption in some situations is for transfers between spouses.

    You could transfer half the house, or even less, such as 1% to get your name on title. you will only pay stamp duty on the value of the portion transferred. See if your bank is happy with this first though – get a preapproval, or even a full approval first.

    Also consider the other aspects of the deal:
    – effect on centrelink benefits for your mum – current/future.
    – asset protection benefits
    – estate planning – any siblings who may be annoyed for e.g.
    – CGT

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    I odn't think there would be any tax issues as long as the LOC has a separate account number.

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    converting to a LOC is very dangerous. I would suggest you never start putting wages etc in and taking them out. It may work out ok if you are just capitalising the interest, I would have done it part IO with offset and part LOC.

    It is a good idea to start borrowing for the property as you plan but run it by your tax advisor first.

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    I would seriously look at selling and using the proceeds to pay off your PPOR loan. If the IP was your partners main residence at some stage it may be CGT exempt.

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    He is talking about CGT I think. You still have to pay these costs though.

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    maybe you are referring to the First Home Owner exemptions?

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    never heard of it.

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    Its cold on the extremities apparently.

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    I can't help with a solicitor in QLD – and they wouldn't do the calculations for you anyway. Just download a loan amortisation template for excel and you can do it in 5 secs.

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    Do you mean set it up?

    There are solicitors that can do all the contracts etc. What state is it in?

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    bfchong wrote:
    Hi there, I'm new to this forum but am hoping to seek advise.
    Intend to purchase an investment property with both my wife & my name on the land title.
    For the bank loan, we intend to borrow only under my name (negative gearing purpose) with my wife as guarantor (bank's condition). Is this option viable? Will it create any issue with ATO? 

    Why?

    You may as well have the wife as a borrower.

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