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I am a solicitor and have seen many people get into trouble. Many will sell and buy at the same time and assume the sales will go through as per the contract however things don't always happen this way.
Imagine having to be out of your house tomorrow so the new purchasers can move in. At 4pm you find out there is still a tenant in your new house and he is not going to move out because he cannot find accomodation.
Or the new buyer refuses to settle because there is a stratch on the kitchen floor that was supposedly not there before.
These sorts of things have a domino effect too. The tenant in your new home won't move out so you cannot settle of your sale. This could in turn affect the person buying the house of the guy buying your house as he cannot move out either.
Idealy you should be able settle on the sale before the purchase, or have enough funds to have both houses for a period of 6 months at least.
Another problem is committing to a purchase thinking you will be able to sell your house quickly and then finding it is harder than expected. This often leads to immense pressure and results in people selling their house much cheaper because they don't have the time to wait.
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Erg01 wrote:
An option I’m thinking is to refinance as much as possible onto the investment property approx $450k, and reduce the loan amount on the PPOR to approx $140k and any left over funds paying off the PPOR. This set-up would be tax effective but am I actually better off in the long run?This would not change the tax deductibility of the loans as you would be borrowing to pay personal debt.
What you should be doing is to get tax advice on using a strategy which enables you to borrow to pay investment debt and other costs.
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To make things simpler I would change the loans to IO with a limit of the existing balance. Then get a LOC up to 80% LVR for the remainder.
WHen you buy the new home borrow the deposit from the LOC and get the remaineder from a new loan. Make sure only one property is securing each loan and take an 100% offset account on the new PPR loan.
If you took the money from the redraw the interest on this wouldn't be deductible and you would be mixing investment and personal loans so it is not advisable to do it this way.
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Stamp duty would be payable in NSW as the percentage ownership would be changing.
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Yes, ideally you should gift or loan a bit extra to the trust to cover any shortfalls for a short period. But I find that many people don't have the spare cash to do so and they end up transferring cash each month. This is not ideal as it looks less like a separate entity then and more an extension of the individual.
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The common law rule is that a trustee cannot delegate their powers. But I think it is possible to a certain extent at least with the law modified by the Trustee acts in each State.
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Ishtvan051 wrote:The person you can employ to manage your SMSF would be the accountant? or someone else?
A trustee must manage the trust they are trustee of. They cannot delegate this role to others however, they can seek advice from professionals.
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Yes, probably.
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Most states allow duty free transfers from one to two names. I think VIC is one of the few that allows two to one name as well.
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Not sure what you are asking, but think of it this way:
With a gift its gone forever. With a loan it comes back – even if you go bankrupt it is due back and could end up in the hands of creditors.
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You should have not resigned from the existing job. Some banks can and do employment checks again closer to settlement.
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Also think of the asset protection aspects.
A gift is not returnable (but could be clawed back in some instances). A loan is always an asset of the lender.
There is usually a trade off of asset protection v tax deductibility.
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If you are gifting the money to the trust then you could not claim a deduction on the interest on the money paid from the LOC. A gift is not an investment and will not produce any income or return. So interest on borrowing to make a gift would not be deductible.
If you borrow and onlend to the trust at the same rate then the trust would end up claiming the deduction of interest.
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I think it would depend on a number of things such as if they are aware of it (they usually don't read broker comments!) and the LVR.
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Yes, it should be disclosed.
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If you gift it then you cannot claim the interest on the LOC. This will mean you are paying interest and won't be able to claim it.
A $500,000 puchase price would mean a $100,000 gift. That would be $7000 pa interest!
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Whether to do it with a trust or not will depend on whether you will live in it and claim it as a main residence.
There are also ways to structure it so that only one of you has to guarantee the loan.
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You have better get good legal advice as you wouldn't want to do all that work and then find out the option was invalid or not exercised in time etc.
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You are a brave man! Going on th word of a public servant!!
Here is a recent VIC case where the purchasers signed and agreement before the trust was established.
Scouller and Anor v Commissioner of State Revenue (Taxation) [2011] VCAT 998 (31 May 2011)
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2011/998.html
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Yes if the bank product allows it. The loan number etc doesn't change.
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