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    Whats it for?

    Deductibility will depend on to what extend it is a fee for the acquisition of a capital item.

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    Henry Adams wrote:
    Derek wrote:
    Hi Henry,

    On limited information supplied some of the following may not be relevant.

    Coomera is one of those new release suburbs (has been for a while) and with more land to come.

    AT best I would imagine rent return would be around 5% so you are out of pocket for rates, insurance, body corporate (if relevant) and the net differential between rent and interest rates.

    For newer properties depreciation is often used, particularly in the early days, to help offset some of the shortfall between inflows and outgoings. You also need to bear in mind that depreciation only reduces your taxable income by the stated amount.

    It is not a rebate – for example if your on the highest possible tax bracket your taxable income reduces by let's say $10K in which case you manage to save yourself about $4700 in income tax. The remaining $5300 comes from your pocket. If your taxable income is below the top bracket the amount of tax saved reduces in accordance with our income tax scales.

    The only way you will get your money back is through capital growth, when that arrives.

    Thanks people for your suggestion and explanation, I am now more enlightened on this matter, I thought that the agency fee $8700 which can be tax deductible (according to Julio himself) + depreciation = well worth more than the $ 8700 itself can someone confirm this please ? I'm new to this property investment world and would love to know if this deal is make sense or just a scam to take advantage of newbie like me ?

    Cheers,

    Henry

    the $8,700 fee would probably not be deductible against income, and only deductible against a capital gain.

    What is the fee for exactly?

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    Why not?

    High yields with good CG potential. At prices like that they would have to go up. Just get landlords insurances!

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    Sorry Crusty, don't know much at all about farming or the tax and stamp duty concessions. But it sounds like there are a lot of concessions available. The above was just copied and pasted from Adelaide Bank

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    There is no minimum time listed in the legislation.

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    nope. You could only get the exemption on the one you live in.

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    Henry Adams wrote:
    Michael, thanks for the reply, "95% LVR is very common these days; especially if your a existing client of the bank." –> so that means we will be using semi fire-walling method ?

    Henry, what is a "semi fire-walling method"?

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    Henry Adams wrote:
    Yeah, I also signed up already with JDL recently after paying $880, and now their investment strategy is to get a property in COOMERA for $435k while charging me once off $8700 When I ask them about how can I gain profits if they charged me $8700 in front ? their answer is by hoping that the building depreciation can give you more than $10k (fingers crossed) Does anyone here know or can share anything about JDL Strategies please ?

    But a building depreciation schedule will cost you about $500 and should give you the same result if you arrange it yourself.

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    You could get 3 houses out in Mt Duritt area for that.

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    Thanks Crusty.

    FMD = Farm Management Deposit

    Found this example on google:
    http://www.adelaidebank.com.au/make_me_money/farm_management_deposits.html

    Who can open an FMD?

    • Primary producers with a non-farm income of less than $65,000 per annum.
    • Accounts must be opened in one name only (joint/company accounts are not permitted).
    • Primary producers may own more than one FMD, but they must all be with the same institution and not exceed $400,000 in total.
    • You must read the ‘Statement to be read by Depositors’ (in accordance with Schedule 2 of The Income Tax Act) before applying. Full details and a copy of the Statement are available on application.

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    Still wondering what a FMD is ? Farms of Mass Destruction?

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    What does the book say? Especially in regards to Land Tax and distribution of income?

    I would suggest you do your research before signing up for a trust.

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    Just be careful with and/or nominee. I agree that you should always use it, but there are stamp duty issues if the nominee doesn't exist at the time of the contract and/or if there is no written agreement in place at the time of signing. Seek legal advice.

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    Borrowing and placing the borrowed money into a savings account is very risky as you would break the nexus between borrowing and investing. Once it hits the savings account it is no longer borrowings.

    Some loans offer redraw, so you could set up a IO loan, new split of course, and borrow the money and then deposit it back into the loan. Once you have the investment ready then you borrow directly from the loan, via cheque,

    LOC is generally easier.

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    Shape wrote:
    Yes- because it's your money to begin with… Regards Michael

    Or is it?

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    You should get a settlement statement from the solicitor and maybe a copy of the contract you signed too.

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    Good work.

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    new2invest wrote:
    @luke86 Trust is the number 1 question on my list when I visit my accountant this week.

    Try to read as much as you can before hand so that it all doesn't go over your head.

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    or desparate

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    generally same as usual, but the other side will probably want a special condition requiring a personal guarantee

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