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    But when you take the $79k out the interest on your loan goes up. You need to factor this in as the $79k is borrowings.

    You also need to be very careful about how you take the $79k out.

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    Ah, so the $79k is really borrowings!

    Make sure you don't actually withdraw that money and place it in a savings account, or the interest on it may not be deductible. Take it straight from the loan and pay it.

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    What are the chances of you going back to live in your PPOR or to buy another?

    I am asking this as if you use your cash for the investment properties then you will have less left over for the private expense of your ow home and therefore will be paying more interest which will not be deductible.

    Does your old PPOR have any equity which you could use to borrow against?

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    Yes, under s118-145 ITAA 1997 it may be possible

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    Henry

    This is all confusing.

    Do you have another property? From the above post it seems that your new property will be stand alone, and not cross collateralised, which is good (and probably what they mean by firewalling). But you haven't taken into account LMI.

    The LMI on a 95% loan will be huge. It may be included into the loan, ie capitalised so you are not paying up front, but it is still a cost you must pay for.

    Also it is not a good idea to use cash if you have another property loan with non deductible debt. ie do you have a PPOR now which you are living in or are you renting.

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    Looks like your loans may be cross collateralised.

    The conveyancing fee is not cheap. Extra valuation fee -probably because they are valuing your other property to use it as security.

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    Capitalising into the loan doesn't make a fee deductible, but it would make interest on the fee could be deductible.

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    Why not talk to one of the mortgage brokers that post here first?

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    Before you sign make sure you do your research as those fees are large.

    I think part of the fee may be deductible upfront. Part of it would relate to borrowing cost and so could be claimed over 5 years. part would be buyers agent type fee for locating the property and this would be claimable against CG when sold and then part of it for finding the tenant and that could possibly claimed all upfront.

    I wonder if you did it all yourself and didn't pay the fee would the property still be negative geared?

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    Yes Henry, that would be possible, but you would lose the CGT exemption for 50%. But if you moved out completely you could retain it completely exempt in some circumstances

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    I just reread you post and I don't like your chances of getting any compensation or getting it fixed. The bath is in place so that would be impossible to move, you may be able to get them to put some sort of stopper on the door though. Store room will be unable to be changed too. I guess this hasn't resulted in a change to the size of the apartment.

    I am a solicitor, so if you want a second opinion you could email me a copy of the contract.

    I had a similar problem with a builder who put a wall in the wrong place. I just let him get away with it and he was appreciative and helped me out with other things.

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    Are there any special conditions about the layout of the design or variations etc?

    And what do you want to do?

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    It depends if you pay the full balance off every month. If you do then I think you could borrow from the LOC and pay off the credit card loan. You would be just refinancing debt. Should be ok as the money goes straight from one loan to the other.

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    You would be paying one loan out with another. It is possible to do and to maintain deductibility, but you need to be careful

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    Unless you want to cross coll the properties (not good) you would need one LOC per property.

    LOCs generally have a higher rate than IO loans.

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    Firstly, read the contract and see what it says about variations. If it possible you have agreed to allow minor variations. If it is not in the contract then you could be able to use this as a way to terminate the agreement.

    If you don't settle on time then the vendor could issue a notice to complete and then they can terminate the contract after 14 days usually and then you could lose your deposit.

    What state is the property in?

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    Hi David

    I have been going to Japan for over 20 years now. The property market is very different there. Properties are like new cars, they go down in value. There has not been any capital growth for about 20 years when the bubble burst. I had thought about buying there for the high yields, but you will also encounter problems with finance – it is nothing like in Australia.

    My advice is to earn money there and then invest it in Australia.

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    Everyone wants to pay as little tax as possible and the best way to minimise income tax is to use a flexible structure such as a discretionary trust. Any other structure is inflexible.

    Discretionary trusts offer the greatest asset protection too.

    But the problem for your mum is that she already owns the property. Transferring means paying stamp duty and losing the asset protection advantages of a discretionary trust (initially anyway). For family law disputes there is no structure that is safe. For succession disputes using a trust can assist as assets held by a trust do not form part of the estate (but could under family provision claims in some states such as NSW).

    Since she is at retirement age there is also superannuation to consider. ie a SMSF. Super does not form part of the estate generally either.

    A good way to hold assets such as property would be via a unit trust with the units owned by a discretionary trust. This makes things very flexible as the units can be easily transferred without changing ownership and it may be possible to transfer the units (and therefore the house) to a SMSF without stamp duty later on.

    Finance is another issue – will she be developing with cash or borrowing from a bank? It may be hard to borrow if she is retiring.

    If the properties are held by your mum personally then she can set up one or more discretionary trusts in her will, ie testamentary trusts and leave assets to a trust which you control. Your sister could have the same trust or a separate.

    There are a huge number of issues to consider and you will need detailed advice which will be expensive.

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    Hang on, I think when an audit is conducted the SRO would write to the individual and to request them to provide them with documents such as electricity notices, drivers licence, etc. So the individual could have provided these documents to the SRO.

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    Colin,

    Yes when i was in the AFP I obtained personal records such as electricity, telephone etc from the providers without a search warrant. This sort of information is requested by filling in a short form and stating what sort of offence you are investigating. Some requests may need to be signed by an authorise officer.

    A warrant would be need to intercept telecommunications or to record conversations by listening device etc (state legislation).

    Getting back to the SRO, this is a state taxation authority and they would have powers under the Taxation Administration (or similar). This is a State based act which would authorise information sharing. The electricity provider would also be allowed under the privacy acts to release information to a government department to assist in the investigation of a revenue offence.

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