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I think you are supposed to claim expenses when they are incurred. ie in the tax year incurred.
International tax is a complex area and it will likely cost you a fortune to get your taxes done properly. Have you got a tax agent handling this for you?
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There are several aspects.
If you rent out your home you will generally lose the CGT free status of it. However, there is a temporary absence exemption where it may be possible to keep it CGT free for up to 6 years.
Then there is the income tax aspects. You will be making a profit from the rent if you have no interest to claim. This means the net income after expenses will be added to your taxable income for the year. If you earn more than $16,000 or so pa then you will have to pay tax.
There is also the residency issue. Will you remain a residence for tax purposes? If not then you will be taxed at a higher rate. 29% with no tax free threshold. If still a resident then you may also be taxed on your overseas income. You may have to look into any double tax agreements with the country you are in.
You also have to consider the tax laws of the country in which you reside. Your Australian income may be taxable there too.
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A trust is where one person (trustee) holds property for another person or people (beneficairies).
With a discretionary trust the trustee controls the property and the income. He/she/it has discretion on who to give the income/assets of the trust too. So no one beneficiary has a claim on the assets of a trust.
If a beneficiary where to go bankrupt their interest in the trust is safe from creditors, generally.
If the trustee where to go bankrupt then the trust property does not form part of their estate and generally would not be available to creditors.
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Hi Paul
A testamentary trust won't prevent challenges to the will. The TT is part of the will and the assets left via a TT can be challenged just as other assets left directly.
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Catalyst wrote:So this is your place and you'll be moving into your partners place? is that correct? Or are you and your partner moving out and you both own it?If the first is the case you can rent out your unit for 6 years and not pay CGT (as long as you don't claim another place as your PPOR (Principal place of residence). Important if you sell later. Move back in within 6 years (even if only for a few months) before selling. Otherwise you pay CGT on all the CG.
Check realestate.com and find out what the rents arte. Speak to a few agents. Get a rental appraisal. While they are there ask for any suggestions that will make the place easier to rent or to increase the rent (paint etc).
Note, only one main residence is allowed between spouses. So if the partner is a spouse (married or defacto) and has a main residence then the 6 year rule may not apply.
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I would imagine the Dept Fair Trading would be on to this. They manage the licensing process and receive complaints etc. It would also be difficult for those sorts to get insurances. But I don't know how the systems works – they could be starting up again under someone else's license too.
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hi Johan
First thing I notice is that one of the business loans is PI. Changing this to IO will assist reduce the repayments. And IO would be more tax effective as you would want to divert money to your home loan first which is not deductible. PI on a business loan means you end up paying more tax.
It is also unclear which loans are secured by which properties and you have your parents home in there valued at $360k, but business loans of about $520k so I think you may have cross collateralised your home and your parents home to get these. This is dangerous because you have your parents home on the line and because you have crossed securities. It could have been set up much safer perhaps.
But yes you could sell. There are 3 problems to this:
1. You would be selling to a company which you control.
2. You would still have to make payments
3. stamp duty.If the aim is asset protection then there will be little if any in doing this.
Your other company would still need a loan of $400,000 or so that buy the house.
large amount of money wasted in stamp duty and legals, and4. You will still have to qualify for a new loan. If you are having problems now then the bank may not lend.
5. there would also be tax issues to consider.What about this:
– trying to change the PI loan to IO
– consider putting the business on the market
– maybe negotiate with your bank to re-extend the terms of the loans. eg. if you have 30 year loans which have been going for 5 years try to restretch it out to 30 years again. but this wouldn't affect IO repayments.Terryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Lenders will require personal guarantees for any company or trust loan. They don't care that the company has no assets because the director or the trustee will personally liable. In fact some banks wouldn't lend money for a housing loan to a company that is trading.
I am not sure about the builder's licence bit, but I would suspect the licence attaches to a person who would be qualified as a builder. The warranty probably stops with the company, but it could be difficult for the builder to keep his licence or renew it if the builder was part of a company that went down and then started up again under a new company.
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Generally loans revert to PI after the IO period expires. So if you have a 30 year loan with 10 years of IO it will be 20 years PI after year 10. Some banks may offer you to extend the IO period, others will make you supply new payslips etc (ANZ).
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Very good Paul
Did you know that trust assets generally no not form part of the estate of the individual on death, but in NSW under the succession Act there is a section where trust assets can be held for form part of the notional estate of the individual. Then under the Family Provision sections of the Succession Act ex spouse are classed as eligible persons able to contest a will. Therefore it would be possible for the ex-husband to make a claim on the trust assets, especially if your mum died within 3 years of transfer. But, this doesnt mean he will succeed.
Also, before you set the above structure up make sure finance will be available.
Having a company as trustee of the discretionary trust which will hold the units is a good idea. $218 pa in not much (asic fees just went up!) and this will add extra asset protection as there are circumstances when unit holders can be liable for the debts of the trust.
Trustee companys dont have any money so the tax returns are just nil returns usually.
You should get your mum to look at estate planning issues with the structure too. Good that you have picked it up as most people don't even think about it. Since trust assets don't form part of the estate you need to consider who takes control of the discretionary trust. This is usually done by drafting the deed with clauses saying X is appointor, but on her death X on his death Z etc. Once you are appointor you can control the trust by changing the trustee. In this case there will be a company as trustee so you will need to look at taking control of these companies too. If the shares are held by your mum then these can be left in the will. If these shares are held by another trust then you need to consider this too.
Also, consider getting your mum to set up a testamentary trust in her will. These have huge advantages in asset protection and taxation.
I am also a solicitor doing a masters degree in estate planning. If you want to meet up one day in the city we can have a chat.
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hi Vesali
Yes, you should never own assets in a trading business and never have too many eggs in the one basket. If you were running a business then the safest thing would be to have one company trade and another company own all the assets such as tables and chairs, computers, photocopiers and then another company supply the staff.
But if you own the shares in all these companies and you go down then creditors can get hold of your shares and thereby control the companies.
You should look at discretionary trusts used in combination with a company as trustee. I think your developer mate would own the properties in the trust with the company as trustee. This adds greater asset protection and tax flexibility.
If a company goes into liquidation the director is not usually banned. It would only happen if the director did something illegal or was charged with an offence relating to finance/fraud/corpations act etc. There is a data base of banned directors on the ASIC website you can search – look up Rivkin!
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Sounds like a good decisiion.
Running a business is not easy, extremely risky and very stressful
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The 2 companies are separate legal entities. As such they are generally not affected by each other unless there are transactions between the 2 which involve unfairness or less than market value transfers etc.
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I think you will find it harder to negotiate because you are dealing, not with the owner, but with the bank. They cannot negotiate below market price or they could be liable to the owner for the shortfall. They could negotiate on conditions, but because you are dealing with a bureaucratic organisation it is hard to arrange.
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I don’t know enough about super to comment. But there are many things to consider and you should probably go and get a 2nd and 3rd opinion from a special SMSF advisor.
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hi Mark
Assets in a discretionary trust may be safe if you go bankrupt. But this will depend on how the trust is set up and how it is used.
If you get divorced then generally having a trust will not assist.
You will probably need to re-jig the finance, but if you have been approved before then you should be approved with the trust.
Trusts can be set up online, but I suggest you don’t do this as I have seen a few people stuff things up. You will be holding an expensive property after all.
Trusts cost nothing to run. If you have a company as trustee then the cost will be about $212 per year for ASIC fees.
The trust will claim any depreciation.
If your father has any role in the trust then this may effect his centrelink payments (if he gets any).
If a trustee dies then the appointor will generally appoint a new trustee but title deeds will have to be changed and loans reapplied for. Best to use a company as trustee for these reasons.
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Hi Paul
With this there are at least 2 aspects of asset protection.
1. You as an individual were be sued and to go bankrupt.
2. The owner of the property is sued.When an individual goes bankrupt assets held as trustee for another person do not form part of your estate. Also an interest in a discretionary trust is not considered property and does not form part of your estate.
With 2 if you use a company as trustee then you will be adding another layer to the protection if something happens in the property – tenant electrocuted, collapse of a wall killing someone etc. generally the company and trust will wear the loss and not yourself as you would be only director and shareholder. There are exceptions of course.
A unit trust is good to hold assets as it enables transfers of ownership/control easily without changing the title deeds. But units are property and could fall into the hands of creditors if you were to go bankrupt at any stage. hence owning them in a discretionary trust. The DT will also offer tax flexibility
This is not a hybrid trust, but something different. A hybrid trust is one trust which has the ability to issue units and also has a discretionary component. Your unit trust could be done as a hybrid with no discretionary component at issue, but it could be possible for the trustee to buy the units back off the trustee and convert the unit trust into a discretionary trust. This can be good because the trustee could borrow to buy the units and the borrowings tax deductible.
If you do set up a structure with yourself as trustee you may save $500 but you will be taking a lot more risk with your personal assets (bank would get a personal guarantee anyway so if the project fails your assets will be at risk anyway) and you will lose the flexibility of ownership via a company. It only costs about $212 per year to have a trustee company.
I would suggest you read this whole thread http://www.somersoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71494 on trusts as there are some great posts in there.
You would generally need the advice of a lawyer and an accountant and a mortgage broker on something like this as you must factor in the ability to get finance.
First would suggest you ask your own accountant and ask him for reasons for his decisions. Then report back here and we will critically exam the response.
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Yep, i was thinking of mortgage managers non authorised deposit taking institutions.
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in Sydney?
for the tax side see http://www.strategicwealth.com.au/
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I would be scared of putting my money in that FH savers account. It is locked away.
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