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    yeah right. that is like saying restuarants sell food so they need people to buy it so give it to consultants who charge you an extra $10 per meal. This doesn’t matter because their fee is added on to your credit card so you don’t pay it with cash. In addition instead of paying $15 menu price for your fried rice they charge $20 so they can give the consultant an extra $5 commission.

    I suggest you immediately get independent valuations done. Then if you have been ripped off speak to a lawyer.

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    I am still confused.

    What have you signed a contract for? to join their ‘program’ or to purchase the property?

    Seems like you paid a fee to someone to sell you a (possibly overpriced) property for which they will also receive a large commission from a developer and to also organise a loan for you for which they may receive a commission and a large trail?

    You should be very concerned

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    You should not be paying off the house but keeping your cash for future possible PPOR loans. A good way to do this to save interest is to use a 100% offset. Paying into the loan and redrawing will make you pay more tax so don”t do that.

    No need to worry about selling yet.

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    A team such as ?
    acting in a timely manner for?

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    If you take it off the market then you probably couldn’t claim interest costs during this period

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    If they need a loan to get into this property then you will be jointly and severally liable which means if he stops paying his share you will need to start paying or the bank will take back their security. The bank will then sell it and you will be left with any left over if any – jointly with the other party. If there is a shortfall the bank will sue you, him or you both. Once they have a judgment they will go after whoever has the most assets.

    It may have nothing to do with marital issues now, but what if 5 years from now he takes a gay lover and their relationship sours after 2 years. The lover can place a caveat on the house to prevent you selling or increasing the loan. This could tie up the property for years.

    There is little chance this will work smoothly

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    There is little to no asset protection with a hybrid because the units are considered property and if they are owned by an individual then they could be up for grabs by creditors. The units also need to be held by the individual or no negative gearing is possible.

    But, hybrid trusts do have many advantages.
    1. They allow negative gearing, and
    2. the units could be transferred to a discretionary trust or a SMSF or someone else without needing to change ownership. maybe stamp duty is exempt or reduced too.
    3. the trustee could borrow to buy back the units = refinancing principle. This could indirectly allow you to claim the interest on personal expenses – but the draw back to this is CGT on the sale of the units to the trustee, but this can be minimised in many ways.

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    I could give you a few legal tips on how to structure things, particularly asset protection if your money is still overseas.

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    Please have a look at this recent WA case where the sellers got into trouble over special conditions:

    Dodds v Kennedy [No.2] [2011] WASCA 131
    http://decisions.justice.wa.gov.au/supreme/supdcsn.nsf/PDFJudgments-WebVw/2011WASCA0131/$FILE/2011WASCA0131.pdf

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    Alexia

    You are asking for legal advice. Your conveyancer should be able to advise on the contract and wording etc or give legal advice in relation to the conveyancing. However, best to use a lawyer as there are often a lot of other areas that can arise (estate planning, trust, family law, succession, finance, asset protection etc etc).

    I think your clauses are too vague.

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    Hybrid trusts are extremely complex. You can gift money or property to a trust. If you are gifting real property such as a house then stamp duty would be payable and CGT would be payable if it applied.

    To start distributing income to the beneficiaries the trust would have to start buying back the units from the unit holders. This would involved CGT as the units must be redeemed at market rates. There may be stamp duty as well. (in addition the trust may have to pay CGT when it sells the property later so double CGT). The trust may also be able to borrow to buy back the units and to claim the interest on this loan.

    If the unit holders just repay their loan to the bank then they will be getting the same income with less expenses which may mean their positively geared. Just think of it as investing into units in a public trust – or shares in a company.

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    They weren't suggesting agents write the special conditions were they? This would probably amount to legal advice.

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    Sounds problematic.

    How can you or them protect yourself? They couldn't get a loan to purchase their share without you guaranteeing the loan – and vice versa.

    What happens if their spouse/lover/mistress puts a caveat on the property just as you were thinking of selling?

    What if one party dies?

    What if one party goes bankrupt?

    What if one party wants out and the other doesn't?

    If you really do want to do it maybe consider using a unit trust to own it so that title doesn't need to change and you just have to transfer units across to a new purchaser

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    The ATO generally insists that the property must be available for rent – such as being advertised. If you were in the business of renovating units then you could possible claim the expenses during this period, but if the unit hasn't been rented before and you only have 1 then probably not. A way around this may be to start advertising while doing it at a highish rate and see what happens.

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    I think you should be able to claim the interest on money borrowed to do the renos, but only from the point when the property is available for rent.

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    If you are selling an option then you won't be providing finance. What you have described as a rent to own seems more like a sale by installments to me.

    Either scenario you couldn't get the buyer to pay your stamp duty as they will be up for their own stamp duty themselves. It would need to be built into the sums.

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    Good work!

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    I still have no clue.

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    Luke,

    What are you talking about? More detail needed. there are hundreds of acts, whats the name?

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    SGermain wrote:
    pretty sure that Trusts are eligible for the 50% CGT discount but companies aren't …..

    having a corporate trustee rather than individuals is a lot more protected too because IF the trust gets sued you can fold the company if need be and appoint a new trustee ….. individual trustees would be personally liable  (unless I've misunderstood my legal advisers).

    Yes, trusts get the 50% discount

    If a trust is sued it is the trustee that cops it, so your personal assets could be at risk if you are individual trustee.

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