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Sounds like you don't understand the concept of deductiblity of interest. This is determined on what hte borrowed funds are used for. So if you borrow against your old IP (eg LOC) and use this to pay down the new PPOR loan the purpose of the borrowings would be private and therefore the interest could't be deducted.
If A and B jointly own a property and A buys B's share the interest on a loan for this partial purchase would be deductible, generally, if that property is an investment.
This may entail stamp duty and CGT though. So you have to run the figures and see if the tax savings make it worth paying the stamp duty and CGT.
If your properties are in VIC it could be possible to do with only nominal stamp duty.
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If you moved out of hte PPOR then the portion of the loan that you could attribute to the money that was used to purchase the PPOR may be deductibe – or the interest on this portion would. Any interest on any money you have ever redrawn from this loan would only be deductible if it was used to invest.
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You cannot change a purpose after it has happened.
Ideally you would have used a 100% offset account and IO loan when purchasing the old PPOR and this would have saved you thousands in tax when you purchased the new one.
To fix/improve things now you could sell the old PPOR or if jointly owned sell/buy the other half and borrow to do so. CGT may be minimal but stamp duty could apply. If the property is in VIC you could be in luck.
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I think the stamp duty rules will vary for each state so legal advice should be sought before signing any contract. This should be done for any property purchase but even more so for a SMSF purchase.
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Also, you have to consider the minimum loan sizes. I have seen some SMSF lenders have a min of $200,000
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Yes a valuation would be needed
s 118-192 ITAA 1997 http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1997240/s118.192.htmlDebt is not taken into account when calculating CGT. So what you do with borrowings etc is not relevant for CGT – but it could be relevant for income tax purposes.
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Powers of attorney cease operation at death!
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Realistically how much of a property could you afford with such a deposit? Setting up the SMSF and bare trust could take a third of that money. Then you have hte lenders legal fees, stamp duty and conveyancing/legals. A deposit of at least 20% and probably 30% or even more for country towns would be needed too.
The trustee of the fund would also probably be breaching their duties if they sunk the whole of the super fund's money into one property – especially a cheap rural one.
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If it was the vendor then how is she going to sign the contract and the transfer?
If someone is taking over the estate, have they been appointed by a court? ie Probate/letters of administration been granted?
If not then they have no legal authority until their appointment. It doesn't matter what the will says because you won't know if it is the last will and is valid until probate/letters of administration.
These things can drag out for many months and even if you do have a valid contract there could be many reasons why the property cannot settle on time – or at all in some instances.
So seek legal advice if this is the case
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Hang on – who died?
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Death maybe another!!!
A vendor is more likely to die within 90 days then 30 days!
What effect will this have on the sale? any special conditions.
Insanity is another and so is bankruptcy and even divorce – what if the ex mistress lodges a caveat after your exchange?
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What about the temporary absence provisions under the Land Tax Act (VIC)
see s56
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In my opinion it would be unlikely that interest would be deductible on any money borrowed and placed into an offset account and then later used for investment.
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jaiterry wrote:Now there is an interesting proposition… item C. I have a considerable amount of equity in my home (>50%). Perhaps there is a solution in there for my scenario. Regards jaiterryBut what would you be borrowing for? for the purchase of a new PPOR? if so then the interest wouldn't be deductible.
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I am not sure what you can do. but you have to be careful as you could pay the builder a progress payment and then the builder go under without doing the work.
You also have to be careful about supplies taking back goods which they have supplied the builder and they have not received payments for – the supplier will often retain title to goods until they are paid. So they could try to come back and remove hotwater systems etc.
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1. means the electricity commission may be exploring for petroleum on that land some time in the future!
2. means s149 cert is not update in terms of zoning. How old is the s149 certificate included in the contract?
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A SMSF cannot purchase from related parties. But one exception is business real property. This is defined to include leasehold property – ie the land with the building as being part of hte land. The SMSF couldn't buy hte building from a related party unless it is attached to the land.
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Sometimes it may be necessary to pay down a loan.
eg. imagine you have a $100,000 property with a $90,000 loan. Interest only. You also have an offset account and $50,000 in it.
If you want to purchase an investment property what would you do?
A. If you took the money from the offset then you would be increasing the non deductible interest on your home loan
B. If you take the money from the offset and pay down the PPOR loan and then reborrow it you will save interest. But if you later were to move out of hte PPOR and rent it you would have reduced your deductible debt.
C a solution would be to keep the cash in the offset and to borrow against any equity in the PPOR and use this to invest. But this may not be possible if the property hasn't grown in value.
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It would likely that the deductibel part of the loan would be much less than $274,000 – even if this was the lowest balance.
This is demonstrated by a quick eg:
$300,000 loan starting balance.
pay down $1,000 per month PI
Interest $500 each monthMonth 1
balance is $299,500Month 2 $299,000
etc
Then after 10 months balance is $295,000.
If you then pay the loan down to $274,000 and then realise your mistake – you may increase teh loan to $295,000 again.
But of this $295,000 you could only attribute $274,000 of it to the purchase of that property. The extra $21,000 redrawn is a new loan. The deductibility of this would depend on the use of this money.
Now you have a mixed purpose loan.
$21,000 used for other expenses
$274,000 used for the purchase of that property
$295,000 in totalThis means that
21,000 / 295,000 = 7.1% other
92.9% for the home portion—
Now it gets more complicated
Each subsequent repayment must come off the loan and be attributed to each portion in accordance with the percentage of the portions.
So each month you pay $1000
7% must come off the other portion
93% must come off the house portionInterest of $500 would be added each month and this too must be added to each portion of the loan
7%
93%—
as you can see as time goes on it gets increasingly complex.
The net effect is that a must lower portion of your loan will be attributable to the purchase of the house and so if this house becomes an investment property you will only be able to claim a lower portion then the $274,000 which was the minimum balance before.
Does this make sense?
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Refinancing won't change things if it is contaminated. but you will be able to separate the portions and claim interest on what is left of the claimable portion.
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