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    I guess that would be the case if you are buying a new house – the architect fees would be built into the construction price. And that is how i claimed one actually as part of the cost of constuction.

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    AALLII wrote:
    Can someone please explain the difference between having a company setup to be the trustee of a trust as opposed to having myself as the trustee of a trust which will be used for purpose of subdivision and land development. Thanks :)

    Allii

    Huge difference.

    Companies have the benefit of limited liability so will help protect you and your assets if something goes wrong. Althoug you will still be required to give perosnal guarantees for loans etc.

    Using a company clearly distinguishes the trust assets from your own personal assets.

    It is easier to hand over control with a company to someone else. eg. you become incapacitated and the trustee needs to be changed – if a company you just change directorships with title being the same with an individual you will have to change the title of the land.

    This is also easier for estate planning at death too. Make sure you plan control of the trust being passed on as trust assets are outside your will.

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    Aallii

    In some cases yes.

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    A vendor would unlikely accept such a condition other than for a few days. Otherwise they could be locked in with you still trying to sell.

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    Another advantage of moving in initially is that the property could be CGT free even while you rent it out later and still enable you to claim all the usual expenses.

    You may also be able to take in a boarder during the period it is your main residence to help with expenses.

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    I imagine that would be a capital expense and could be deductible against any capital gain/loss

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    Tinsel777 wrote:

    Here is a link to a letter from the former federal Attorney General confirming what I have just said about the non recognition of local councils. http://www.larryhannigan.com/Attorney_General_Referendum_Letter.pdf
     

    This letter says the constitution doesn't recognise local government. This is true. But does it mean all local government regulations are invalid? No. It a local government enacted something that is contrary to the constitution then it would be invald – eg. they are going to set up their own tarrifs on trade between blacktown and penrith. This would be contrary to the constitution and be an invalide law.

    Are rates state local government taxes? probably. Are the unconstitutional? Possibly, but they are still being charged so there must be cases where someone has challenged a council in charging council rates and they must have lost – otherwise the could be no rates.

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    Tinsel777 wrote:
    Ok, the information on variable rates:

    For a loan contract or any agreement under Common Law there are eight essential elements.

    There must be –

    (1) an offer;
    (2) acceptance;
    (3) sufficient consideration;
    (4) capacity to contract;
    (5) intention to enter legal relations;
    (6) legality of purpose;
    (7) genuine consent; and
    (8) certainty of terms.

    The problem with varible interest rates is in number 8, that it is NOT 'a certainty of terms'.

    In fact the word 'variable' in the Oxford Dictionary means 'uncertain'. So in actual fact the banks are commiting contract fraud under Common Law. The uncertain terms of varible interest.

    Individuals have used this argument in courts in recent times.

    I hope this helps.

    Thanks for this more concrete informaiton.

    Do you have any caselaw to back this up?

    My take is that 'variable' doesn't mean the contract contains an uncertain term. Variable could possibly mean 'uncertain' in some instances but could also refer to 'change' or 'adjustible'.

    For a contract to be void for uncertainty I think you would need more than this. The language would have to be vague or imprecise.  You couldn't have an agreement to buy a house but subject to a price to be agreed upon.

    One term of the contract could be imprecise but the contract as a whole could still stand. It is also possible that a term could be vague but stiff able to be defined by common practice or some other method. eg you could have an agreement to purchase a house with the price to be determined by the average of two valuations by registered vauers.

    With the loan agreements the interest rate is listed in the agreement, but it is subject to change.

    That website you listed is a bit of a conspircary right wing type. The letters are appauling.

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    The constituion is really legislation. It is just legislation that out ranks other legislation. So the Commonwealth couldn't enact laws that are contrary to the constitution.

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    Tinsel777 wrote:
    Hope this answers one of your questions regarding constitutional law ruling over all.

    In September 5th 2006 the Case of – Forge versus Australian Securities and Investments – all seven High Court Judges stated unanimously that the Constitution reigns supreme.

    Thanks for the reference, but I didn't ask such a question. 

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    Also please give an example of common law over ruling legislation

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    Sorry to have offended you but it just doesn’t make sense. All lawyers study constitutional law as a compulsory subject so I have studied it in depth but it is not an area I am interested in

    If there were state laws contradicting the constitution then they would be invalid and they would quickly be challenged in the high court.

    Leaving the comments regarding the murders aside for a min Specifically which section of the constitution would prevent variable interest rates?

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    mcgrandles wrote:
    hi have a person interested in my house but has not put in an offer but has asked for a contract of sale to be sent to him then he will make an offer after his solicitor has gone through it im very confused ? i thought you had an offer first then if you accept that offer contracts are then drawn if i do contract first what cost is involved ? and at what risk   

    How can the potential buyer accept your offer to sell the house when they don't know the terms.

    Also, in NSW at least, a property cannot be marketed by an agent unless a contract of sale has already been prepared.

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    That is the most ridiculous thing I have read in the past hour!

    Legislation takes precedent over common law and the HIgh Court is the only court that has jurisdiction to hear constitutional matters.

    Who would be making the death threats? What recent murders could be linked to keeping the status quo? Do you think the reservice bank has a hit squad or that the CBA employs assassins to take out those who refuse to fix their loans? of course not, they would be contractors so that they do not have to pay the superannuation guarantee surcharge!

    Next you will be telling us the 9/11 attacks were organised by Israel and the CIA? Or that Pharlap is still alive and living in Tibet under a false name.

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    I am a lawyer so am intereste in your views.

    On what basis can banks charging variable interest rates illegal? If this is the case why hasn't someone mounted a challenge? I recall something in the  media about it a few years ago now but never looked into it.

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    Hi Tinsell

    I am not saying you definitely need a licence but look into the laws of the State you will want to act in first. You may need a real estate licence or a buyer's agent licence.

    No sure how the 'free people' bit fits in either. The laws are there to, allegedly protect the people and maintain standards. You could imagine how it would be if anyone could act as a real estate agent without being licenced (they are dodgy enough as it is).

    And why would it be unconstitutional?

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    Are you licensed to charge a finders fee?

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    jasedc5r wrote:

    I was wondering if I would still be able to finance under my name and purchase the property under a family trust?
    If this is possible, what problems will I have with tax claims?

     

    Remember the trust is not a legal entity. It will be the trustee that is owning the property not the trust. So it should be the trustee borrowing the money in their capacity as trustee.

    If you borrow in your name an you are not the trustee then it could be deemed that you are onlending the money to the trust. If you did that then the interest on that loan would not be deductible.

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    Hope you are not trying to set everything up on your own.

    Read this recent interesting case
     Aston (Aust) Properties Pty Ltd & Ors v Commissioner of State Revenue (Taxation) [ 2012] VCAT 48  (9 January 2012)
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2012/48.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=title%28%222012%20VCAT%2048%22%29

    11 Trustee companies and 67 trusts owning real property – but he stuffed up and the trusts were not valid.

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    Move in for a while and then rent it. Benefit could include:
    – less stamp duty
    – FHOG
    – CGT exemption
    – All the income tax deductions too (after renting)

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