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    What does your lease say?

    Did you read it before signing?

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    Thanks Rob for that.

    s114-10(7) says that the survivor is taking to have acquired the interest of the deceased at the time the deceased acquired it and the 12 month discount would be applied fro that date.

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1997240/s114.10.html

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    If buying for cash you need extra special planning, especially from an tax and asset protection angle.

    But, good idea. You could get a $100,000 for 80k and later borrow against it at 80% x 100k = 100% finance (in theory).

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    How can you understand that? it is just my opinion.

    You must do some indepth research, thinking and planning. And in the end it will depend on the property too.

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    Probably VIC if you want to make money.

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    With no capital growth you are probably better to keep your money in the bank!

    If you invest in a cashflow property returning 8% then have you worked out what you will get after expenses. You must factor in high costs for repairs too.

    Of course with leverage things may work out better and there could be some capital growth.

    And, if you have that much cash sitting in the bank you need to get some good legal advice as well.

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    WIthout Capital growth you are not going to make any money in the long run.

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    My view is that none of the interest will be deductible if you put the money into an offset account. Once it hits the offset it is no longer borrowings. See the Domjan case – although Domjan was denied deductibility because the borrowed funds were mixed with non borrowed funds in the offset.

    Use a LOC as it is not worth the risk. Or use a term loan with redraw and have the funds sitting in redraw ready to invest. Make sure this is a separate split though.

    As for the interest on the buyer's agent fee. This will relate to a property which you have not yet purchased. So I am not sure how it would be treated. Would be interested to know what the accounants think.

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    Aalli

    Before you buy make sure you get your structure properly sorted out and set up,

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    s0805 wrote:
    To answer you question what will you be doing with the funds until they are needed for a property purchase ? I will be in market looking for properties or hire buyer's advocate to find me property eith their fees. I mean I will be redrawing 95K in Mar 2012 but i will not be spending this money until I make the property purchase ( e.g. in May 2012), the gap between Mar 2012 and May 2012 I
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    Where will you put the money? If you borrow it then you will have to place it somewhere until you use it. This may break the connection between borrowing and investingl

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    hi Mike,

    S115-30(4) couldn't apply in this case because the interest of the deceased didn't pass via the estate. If the property was held as Tenants in Common it would have applied though.

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     You will be selling the car and receiving cash. that generally poses no tax issues.

    That doesn't mean you can claim the interest on the car. that would be a separate transaction. If you are using it for private reasons then the lease wouldn't be deductible. But if this is a salary sacrifice arrangement you might be reducing your income by the lease amount and saving a bit of tax.

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    When a joint tenant dies the survivor is treated as having acquired the deceased's interest in the property on the date of their death. s128-50 ITAA.
     
    So Blade if you had waited 11 days you could have saved $15,000 in tax. (not trying to rub it in, but just wish to point out to others the importance of getting legal and tax advice).

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    12 months is from date of contract for purchase to contract to sell

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    You could make an application to the court to modify the easement – s89 Conveyancing Act NSW

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    hi

    I don't know much about easements. But they can be not registered and still valid.

    EG. s42(1)(A1) Real Property Act 1900 (NSW)

    REAL PROPERTY ACT 1900 – SECT 42 (NSW)

    http://corrigan.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/rpa1900178/s42.html

    42 Estate of registered proprietor paramount

    (1) Notwithstanding the existence in any other person of any estate or interest which but for this Act might be held to be paramount or to have priority, the registered proprietor for the time being of any estate or interest in land recorded in a folio of the Register shall, except in case of fraud, hold the same, subject to such other estates and interests and such entries, if any, as are recorded in that folio, but absolutely free from all other estates and interests that are not so recorded except:

     

    (a1) in the case of the omission or misdescription of an easement subsisting immediately before the land was brought under the provisions of this Act or validly created at or after that time under this or any other Act or a Commonwealth Act,

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    Sounds like you seen a property sales person rather than an investment advisor. Be very careful

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    hi Cathy,

    I am not an accountant, so cannot be sure, but if there are losses in the trust and these cannot offset the capital gains then the losses would be carried forward to be offset by future income.

    But you would need to go about things very carefully as one of the requirements for a valid trust is property. So you would have to keep some property in the trust (maybe even $10) even though it would have a negative balance and negative income.

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    Good point Catalyst!

    If they were spouses (married or defacto whether same sex or not) then only one main residence between them.

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    I would imagine that your interests in the property would be treated separately.

    If you are renting the property out after establishing it as your main residence then the CGT exemption could apply if you have no other residence which you are classing as a main residence

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