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Invest is myanmar real estate! Watch it take off.
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Hi Joe
Just worried that you will be missing something if you do it yourself. The contracts for NSW and other states are standard. But that doesn't mean nothing needs to be added to them. Special conditions are in each contract that I have seen. So if you do it yourself how are you going to draft these special conditions? How are you going to know if a search you have included is valid and therefore how do you know your contract is even valid?
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Anand – how long have you been a broker?
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Joe, what about my comments? Seems you don't understand.
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I haven't seen any banks require building and pest inspections before.
And there is no requirement for you to get one to purchase this one. It is recommended though.
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g0biin wrote:Hi Guys
I have asked this question before, however I wasnt satisfied with the answers. But maybe thats because I didnt ask the right question.
So here goes again/
I read in API mag the following."Another way smart property investors protect their assets is to buy them in the correct ownership structures to legally minimise their tax and protect their assets. Most wealthy property investors own nothing in their own names, but control their assets through companies or trusts."
Can anyone explain how I might be able to do this when I am buying cheaper cash flow properties ? lets say a property under $200 000 renting for $280 to $300 per week.
I have been told by my accountant that because the return isnt over 70 000$s a year is not worth having my assets in company or trust structures.
Hope that make sence.
Thanks
GSounds like your accountant doesn't understand structures very well – or you have misinterpreted him/her.
It is certainly not a good idea to use a company to hold appreciating assets for a number of reasons.
A discretionary trust is totally different however.
a mere profit of $2000 in a trust could make it all worthwhile. eg. a property in your name at the top rate rate with a $2000 profit could result in almost $1000 in tax. Whereas if it was in a trust could result in no tax at all.
Then consider the future growth as well.
As for asset protection it is not just as simple as setting up a trust it is but how it is set up and how you use it. I can think of around 10 ways that a trust could be attacked if done incorrectly.
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Michael
A bit incorrect there. A trust is not really a separate entity. Legally a trust is the trustee. ie if a trust is sued it is the trustee that is sued. So a trustee can be personally at risk – this is why a $2 company is generally used. A trustee is often indemnified out of the assets of the trust. So a A is sued as trustee for the trust and there is a judgment awarded against A, A has to pay it. A can do this by calling on the assets of the trust. If the assets of the trust are not enough to satisfy the judgment then A's personal assets are at risk.
However, for tax purposes a trust is treated as a separate entity – so lodges a separate tax return.
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If you know a lot about property law you could draft your own contracts. But what if you leave something important out and then go to your solicitor after the purchaser has signed – you will be locked into a costly mistake maybe. eg. You come to the settlement period and the purchaser says they don't want to proceed now and is rescinding. You having relied on the money from this sale coming through to settle on the next one and then that falls over too.
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keiko wrote:Doing up a contract is basic. you could stop into a local agent and ask for a copy of a sales contract but most times they will try get you to sell with them.
Next option would be downloading one of the net for maybe $20
I get mine from REIQ, I'm not sure if the same company does them where you are.
To sell your property I would recomend finding a good agent but if there is none around then yea I would sell it yourself, by using an agent they could possibaly get you a better price than what you could achieve by doing it yourself.Do you really do this?
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in NSW you could buy the standard contract for $19 or so.
But then what? Do you know what special conditions needed? What searches to include? Expiry dates of searches. What boxes to tick, how to treat GST, land tax etc.
eg. you may include one document which is over 6 months in age and this could mean the contract is invalid. That could mean the purchaser could sign and exchange and then later decide to pull out using this as an out.
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Also consider tax deductibility.
If you have cash available from a sale you would ideally want to put that off the home loan to reduce the non deductible interest and then borrow it again to increase deductions. Being such a high LVR will complicate things, but you could use redraw as a last resort.
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There is no real need to actually meet your accountant face to face. It can all be done over the phone and email/fax these days.
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I suggest you get both to sign the lease. maybe evens suggest they let you take some rent money at settlement – 6 months in advance??
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I think that paragraph was referring to the trustee in bankruptcy.
But a court can replace a trustee. In NSW this can be done under the Trustee Act. Just look at the Gina Reinhart case at the moment. Some of her children are trying to have the trustee (Gina) replaced.
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Do you mean 'borrow' from a trust?
A beneficiary can borrow if the trust deed allows it. Could be interest free or market rates depending on the situation.
Have a look at this article from yesterday where a trust lent $14mil to a beneficiary to purchase a house
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certainly not free but a valuer can do a value as at a certain date in the past.
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will need a valuer. Real estate agents cannot give valuations – unless they are also licenced valuers.
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You would have to work out a comparison on what the CGT would be on both. And then factor in the ooprtunity cost of paying the tax now on the one you sell or retain the exemption for down the track.
If you rent the house out before living in it then the CGT is worked out of a time basis. If you live in it first and then rent it out you can take the value at the date if became a rental and use that as your cost base.
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You could draw up the contract yourself on the back on an envelope. As long as it contains the 3 ps. Property, Price, Parties. You will also need statutory required searches. If you don't include the right searches then although you may have a binding contract you will have one in which the vendor can pull out at any time before settlement.
Also consider, what if you get something wrong in the contract? could cost you thousands to fix.
It will probably cost a few hundred to prepare a proper strong contract. Why take the risk of doing it youself.
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Since the offset account is just cash there should be no tax consequences how you pay for bills. Just take the cash out of the offset and pay or electronic transfer etc.
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