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What portion was used for investment purposes and which loan?
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Fixed loan may complicate things.
Can you give some rough figures of what the portions used were?
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Yes, it shouldn't change with most banks. The offset works by reducing the interest charged so you should see the monthly interest amount fluctuate as your offset balance goes up and down.
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Ok, mayor quinby here.
You have accidently ended up with a mixed purpose loan by combining business with pleasure. But all is not lost because the ATO will allow you to split the loan and recover.
In my eg above you had a $100,000 loan.
You could simply split this up into 2 separate loans of
$10,000 for the investment and
$90,000 for the main residence.Then you can relax and start paying the $90,000 loan down asap and saving non deductible interest while maximising deductions.
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Think it has to be a second room
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Hi Adrian sorry didn't mean to scare you!
You can generally claim costs associated with running a home office but not rent unless you are self employed. The office needs to be your place of business.
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Are you suggesting you may be able to claim part of the rent as a deduction? If so will you operate a business from home?
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What you have done is to create a mixed loan.
eg you had $90,000 outstanding on your PPOR loan.
You borrowed $10,000 from redraw and used for investmentThis is just a $100,000 loan in which 90% of the interest relates to the PPOR and 10% to the investment. So 10% of the interest each month should be deductible.
But, there is a problem because any repayments you make to this loan will need to be apportioned. So if you pay $1000 per month then $900 needs to come off the PPOR portion and $100 off the investment portion.
This is not ideal as you will be paying down investment debt when this could be coming off your PPOR debt.
So, what I suggest you do is to split your loan asap. You will then be able to divert more money to paying down non deductible debt and improve your tax position. It will save you thousands over the years.
You might even take the opportunity to refinance and get a better rate while improving the structure too.
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Maybe consider transferring the land into both names now, which can probably be done without stamp duty. That way down the track the CGT will be lessened.
But get tax advice first because if you transfer for no consideration it may not work.
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Yes. they can't demand payment.
yes, a beneficiary cannot influence or control a discretionary trust (unless they are also the trustee).
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Liz, you must use one security per loan or you will be cross collateralising.
This may be a pain if you have 10 properties with $10,000 available equity each, but it is worth it I think,
To see the dangers of crossing look at this thread where someone has sold a house but the bank won't release it because the other house remaining has reduced in value:
http://somersoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79661
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Setting up a trust won't prevent conflict because there will still be decisions to be made by the trustee. So C could not like these decisions and complain to A – but be not able to do anything legally because a beneficiary of a discretionary trust has no right to income just the right to be considered.
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I would consider that I paid $50,000 too much if that was the case.
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Steven,
Unless person C is disabled he or she cannot be a beneficiary of a SDT. B can if B is disabled – under the definition in the act.
Setting up trusts costs money. You need advice as well. It may be expensive but the tax savings and Centrelink benefits will make it worthwhile – plus other benefits such as estate planning, asset protection and the fact knowing that the disable relative will be looked after if the trustee or parents etc die first.
Whether you have other trust for non disabled persons to benefit is a different matter to consider.
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Sure
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ssa1991186/s1209m.htmlAlso check out the division in general:
PART 3.18A----PRIVATE FINANCIAL PROVISION FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES Division 1--Special disability trusts
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ssa1991186/index.html#s1209m
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Trustees cannot be beneficiaries of an SDT for a few reasons:
– An SDT is a special trust that is defined in legislation
– An SDT is set up for the disabled person to benefit and must have only one beneficiary (i think)
– A trustee cannot hold something on trust for himself – there would be no trust as the defintion of a trust is A holding property for B.Generally a trustee can be a beneficiary of a discretionary trust or a unit trust – but not the only beneficiary.
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Person A has a spouse and is married to someone else?
I think a SDT can only have one beneficiary and that beneficiary has to be disabled as defined at s1209M of the the Social Security Act. A and C could be trustees though.
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Istvan051 wrote:What if you have an investment house worth 700,000 then how do I insert 578,500 only into this?Possibly you could transfer a % to the trustee of the SDT and yourself as tenants in common. But then you have to watch out for capital growth down the track.
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Istvan051 wrote:I also understand retained income. If the trust earns 20,000 and I receive 15,000 then I and the trust will both pay tax on this 20,000.You would pay the tax on $20,000 i think. A disability trust only has one beneficiary and that beneficiary is entitled to all the income so even if not distributed to them it is still attributed to the beneficiary
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I think you have mixed up a few things:
There may be a CGT exemption for assets gifted to a SDT.
A pensioner could gift up to $500,000 to a SDT for a family member and not have their pension affected.Assets of the trust up to $578,000 are not counted towards reducing the centrelink payments of the beneficiary. The main residence can be held in the trust and this doesn't count either. CGT can apply too for the main residence.
But income from the trust is taxed in the hands of the beneficiary. Retained income is too – ie income that isn't distributed.
The beneficiary would have the same tax rates as every other residents I believe.
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