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    princesshayleyk wrote:
    Is it fairly Reader friendly Terry? I have a 1&2 year old so my brain is still a bit mushy!

      As reader friendly as it is possible.

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    rudra_r wrote:
    Hi Terry,

    Just looking at the TrustMagic book at the moment and noticed the pricing of it ($99 Hardcopy – prefer that to the PDF version), would like to know your thoughts on the book before I go out and buy it.

    It is the best easy going intro into trusts I think.

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    Wrong set up. Or maybe better, a less than ideal set up. Your accountant is only half correct too.

    Firstly it is not such a good idea to have people as trustees for a few reasons. One is asset protection. If the trustee is sued in their capacity as trustee than all their personal assets are at risk.

    It is also not good to have 2 trustees for a few reasons:

    1. If the trust goes down both trustees go down with it.

    2. Personal guarantees are usually required. If you have 2 trustees then both are at risk as will need 2 guarantors.

    3. Because of 2 you will have a reduced borrowing capacity.

    Your accountant is wrong in that if you are sued personally and go bankrupt then assets held on trust are not property that can be seize by a trustee in bankruptcy – generally.

    This is why it is important to get advice when setting up structures.

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    I think you are going about things wrong. This is a civil dispute and you will have to sue the company to get your money back. To do this you will have to spend money on legal fees, or give it a go yourself.

    There is no one to 'report' them to and ACA wouldn't be interested. This sort of thing happens every day of the week.

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    Too late to consider asset protection once you have purchased a property and too late to implement tax saving strategies (largely).

    Each person has to weigh up the costs v benefits I guess.

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    Jamie M wrote:
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    DEVILZ wrote:
    what if you redraw money from your PPOR to offset account and realise you made mistake and put them back in couple of weeks ??

    still 100% tax deductible?

    No.

    It is similar to urinating into a bottle of milk and realising your mistake and withdrawing the urine.

    lol – that deserves a click on the little thumbs up icon.

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    Some people don't get the concept. They think it only a small mistake – which it is. But it has far reaching consequences.

    So using the urine example usually gets the concept across. If they still think it is ok, I ask them if they would drink the milk after the urine has been removed.

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    DEVILZ wrote:
    what if you redraw money from your PPOR to offset account and realise you made mistake and put them back in couple of weeks ??

    still 100% tax deductible?

    No.

    It is similar to urinating into a bottle of milk and realising your mistake and withdrawing the urine.

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    phill666 wrote:
    Yes your right my wording is out of whack,

    What im trying to say is can we use our super as some form of equity to borrow money from a lender?

     

    No.

    Indirectly, perhaps. There is a new product which allows a person to invest their super into a property trust. This person is then about to borrow money from an associated trust to enable them to borrow to buy residential property int their own name at up to 95% LVR with no mortgage insurance. New product.

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    best not to assume things, but to look at the agreement you entered into.

    Was the spa working at the date you signed the contract? Any special conditions about the spa? What was the wording etc.

    Have your solicitor answer these questions. If you have used a conveyancer or settlement agent they won't generally assist too much in this area as it is out of their range.

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    see https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/help-needed/4346720#comment-276980

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    phill666 wrote:
    Hi guys, these days we can borrow money from lenders to invest against our superannuation.. d

    I think your wording there is out of whack.

    you cannot borrow to invest against superannuation. What you can do is set up a SMSF and the trustee can borrow to invest in property (or other single acquirable asset). ie you cannot borrow, but the trustee can (property held in custodian trust).

    Sunsuper was voted one of the best industry superfunds in 2012 – recall reading it somewhere.

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    What about penalty interest for you Mick?

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    Realistically what can you do other than settle?

    Keys are often an issue – many people don't have keys for various doors in their houses – they may never have locked the door with a key for example.

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    Terryw wrote:
    Hi Wobbly,

    Can't imagine that would be the case as most trusts would have no income and those that did have income shouldn't be buying assets for asset protecton reasons.

    I will ask my contact at CBA and report back.

    His response:

    They should take into his personal income depending on what type of trust and how the application is set up.

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    You shouldn't settle until you get vacant possesion as you will inherit any tenant problems.

    Cleaning can be a problem. Do you have any special conditions about this? I had a client who sold and refused to clean and left stuff everywhere – a wardrobe full of clothes. She refused to remove them. I told her it wasn't nice to leave the house like that. In the end the new owners wore it as they wanted to move in and it could have dragged onlong for a long time.

    I would suggest the old holding back $500 trick and see what they say. Some people just want their money so will agree. If they promise to come back and clean it later after settlement don't believe this – although it did happen to me last year. Seller came back and collected junk left.

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    For trusts just use google and start reading. Lots to take in. Or buy the book "Trust Magic"

    For your business I would suggest you quickly move over to a Pty Ltd company, either in its own right with sharehs owned by a discretionary trust or as trustee. This company should not buy property for asset protection reasons. Businesses high a very high chance of getting sued so you wouldn't want to lose your properties.

    If you will be negatively gearing a trust cannot distribute a loss. So this will not directly assist in saving tax. But befcuase you will be running a business one trust can distribute to another so the business income can be offset by the negative property and this will save you tax.

    You also need to consider land tax.

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    You have no real way of knowing. Ask for personal guarantees – litle help maybe.

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    Hi Wobbly,

    Can't imagine that would be the case as most trusts would have no income and those that did have income shouldn't be buying assets for asset protecton reasons.

    I will ask my contact at CBA and report back.

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    Terryw wrote:
    jmsrachel wrote:
    Say they are tenants, could you claim the interest on the loan? If only part of it can be claimed how is it calculated?

    Only if renting at market rates, otherwise maybe a portion of the interest.

    How is it calculated? Well if you would have to make reasonable effect to apportion the interest.

    If you are renting out half of your house then maybe 50% of the costs. But if you are rent out half of your house for $200 when the market rate would be $400 then maybe 50% of 50% or 25% of the costs.

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    Of course it is not free. The only way someone would spend time with you for free is if they are making money out of you later – selling you a property for example.

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