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    small business concessions possibly.

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    double post

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    you need to get specific advice.

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    the agent is your agent. you have given them permission to act on your behalf. if they have done something exceeding their power then they can be personally liable. but what are you seeking in this? was the hotwater system too expensive and do you want a reduction? legal fees will exceed the cost of the hws.

    the plumber probably has clauses in his contract that he retains ownership of the items until paid. he may also be entitled to go onto the property to take his items.

    i would suggest you be very careful how u proceed.

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    there are no books devoted to asset protection for australian readers. you could try the trust structure guide which has a lot of relevent material, costs about $250. you should read the bankruptcy act in its entirity and relevent parts of the corporations act and conveyancing act in your state. alos succession act and trustee acts. family law act too. and then move on to the relevant cases.

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    Probably cross collateralised, or used a LOC for the deposit etc

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    These were from my notes, the URL has probably changed

    Try searching http://www.ato.gov.au/rba/disclaimer.aspx with the PBR number.

    I didn’t keep copies, so hope they are still available.

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    There are also a few private rulings out there where the ATO actually said it was ok – these only work for the individual that applied for the ruling. Might be good ammunition to rely on though if you try the same.

    PBR 94313 http://www.ato.gov.au/rba/content.asp?doc=/RBA/Content/94313.htm

    PBR 93035 http://www.ato.gov.au/rba/content.asp?doc=/RBA/Content/93035.htm

    PBR 93707 http://www.ato.gov.au/rba/content.asp?doc=/RBA/Content/93707.htm

    PBR 94313 http://www.ato.gov.au/rba/content.asp?doc=/RBA/Content/94313.htm

    One where they said no

    PBR 1011345133229 http://www.ato.gov.au/rba/content.asp?doc=/RBA/Content/1011345133229.htm

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    Guys,

    Why not charge a nominal sum of $100 to $500 for your services. You could have this rebated if the client’s loan settles. Once someone has paid some money they are more likely to stick around, even if it is just $100.

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    Alex SC wrote:
    Just dealing with a client now who is using a super fund to purchase .Correct me if I am wrong the Super fund can send money to LLC  which is set up in states then the LLC can purchase the properties.

    We are currently dealing with a Client who is using a super fund so new to us. This clients has over 20 homes in the USA purchased in different markets.

    So I would like to see what every one else is saying on this ( especially you finance guys )

    Thanks

    Alex, You have to look at SIS reg 13.22C from memory. A superfund cannot invest in certain assets but can buy shares and units from a related member if there is no mortgage or lien on the property owned by the company or trust.

    If there will be borrowings then a separate bare trust needs to be set up so that none of the SMSF funds assets will be used as security.

    you also have to look at the ADI requirements.

    Its a tricky area.

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    See these

    FC of T v. Brown 99 ATC 4600; (1999) 43 ATR 1

    FC of T v. Jones 2002 ATC 4135; (2002) 49 ATR 188

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    Yes, this can be possible. There is a precedent case involving a person who borrowed to buy a business and the business went bust – company in liquidation I think. They were able to keep claiming the interest.

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    Don’t give up on it though. It is still possible to do, you just need to plan carefully how you structure it and the reasons for doing it.

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    My reading of that TD is that the ATO can apply Part IVA of the Tax Act and deny the deduction if the dominant purpose is to pay the home loan off sooner.

    This doesn’t necessarily mean it cannot be done. There is another ruling which says capitalised interest retains the character of the underlying loan, so if the base loan is deductible the capitalised interest can be deductible. But that has to be read with the newer TD mentioned above.

    Part IVA is used to deny a deduction if it has a dominant purpose of tax savings.

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    A lot of people don't honestly tell the broker information. So the broker would possibly be wasting their time if you exaggerated or left out some important bits – on purpose or unintentionally.

    I have never done so myself, but have been caught out a few times when clients forget about that limit on the LOC.

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    Jact, Sounds good in theory, but have you read TD 2011/D8 or sought advice on this?

    And, why would not a 'normal' LOC work?

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    Why do you want such a product?

    Possibly the St George Portfolio loan. The sub account limts can be adjusted I beleive.

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    Ralph Z wrote:
    Hi Terry:

        no, as far as i know, they will just give you all the options, you decide what to do, and you would then need to speak to accountant and lawyers etc.

         cheers

    Gee that is fairly costly then.

    Yesterday I did some financial planning training. Now I am a solicitor and chartered tax advisor and a mortgage broker. Once I set up as a planner I will be able to do the complete advice and set up all wills with testamentary trusts,inter vivos trusts, smsfs, loan agreements structures etc. I was intending on charging about $5000 to $10,000 for all this per couple and then rebate any commisisons from loans and insurances etc. There are not many fin planners that are also solicitors

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    Wonder who the lender is? Probably a mortgage manager

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    This is one of the problems with using a conveyancer. Did you get legal advice on the release of the deposit?

    It is the bank’s money so they can make up the rules. Complaining may or may not help. Its like you asking me to lend you money and I say I will if you do x. There may be no legal requirement to do x, but that doesn’t mean I have to lend you the money.

    You have to act fast. Maybe a different lender?

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