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    If your house is worth $420,000 and if you own 50/50 you would have to pay her $210,000 for her share (50%). Borrow $210,000 to do this. Transfer at full market value so you can claim the interest on the loan. Your new loan would be something like $120,000  (your share of the existing loan) plus $210,000 = $330,000 which is 78% LVR.

    CGT needs to be considered – wife may be exempt if this was the main residence.

    Stamp duty. Generally on the value transfrred unless hte property is in VIC where this may be nil.

    Doing this would release about $210,000 in cash into your wife's hands which could be used to pay down the loan on hte new property. Extra interest claimed each year would be about $210,000 x 6% = $14,400

    If you sold the house outright you would get $240,00 in your hands after paying out the loan.

    This would mean you have another $240,000 which could reduce your new PPOR loan. A loan of $240,000 less would save you about $14,400 per year. in interest.

    But you also have to crunch the numbers on buying your wife's share and then property via negative gearing.

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    You are not required to live in the property again.

    s

    ee s118-145 ITAA 1997.

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    If you have funds to build and parents have then why not just enter into a JV agreement and slit the profits accordingly.

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    If you want to start your own thread go to the section you are interested in such as

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/general-property

    And then click "post new forum topic".

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    fantomas wrote:
    sorry to ask a stupid question but can someone tell me how i can do my 1st post? i have been looking for 20 minutes here and am frustrated

    You’ve just done it!

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    roboproperty wrote:
    Set up a Discretionary Trust. It will be in no ones name, but under a company that doesn't trade. You both can be listed as beneficiaries. It's a little complicated to explain but some accountants can set it up. Definitely worth a look at.

    Consider the land tax, loss of negative gearing benefits etc too.

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    Jac, don't know if adverse possession could apply in this case. The person must be in possession of the land for 10-15 years (varies state to state. 10 years in NSW I think) to the exclusion of others. This doesn't appear to be a fence out of alingment but just a fence that will be extended. Any aplication for adverse possession would be complex and very costly.

    What could work is to apply for an easement. There is an implied easement which allows the back garage to be accessed. It sounds like all the information was in the contract and the survey, but it wasn't something that stood out.

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    minds-eye wrote:
    My next question would be – can I still treat this property as my "Main residence" if I rent it out and purchase another property to live in?

    Possibly, but you can only claim one property at any time as a main residence (except 6 months overlap when selling).

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    Don't forget stamp duty in ACT may be deductible against income as the land is lease hold.

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    BigCubez wrote:
    minds-eye wrote:
    I was thinking that I would rent the property out initially in order to claim approximately $5k worth of deductions during the construction phase.

    I'm not sure what 5K deductions your trying to claim during construction. It is my understanding that if the property in not available for rent, then you can't claim deductions.

    With the CGT, if you have it as your PPOR initially, then move out with no other PPOR, then it can remain CGT free for a further 6 years. If you rent it out first, then move in, the CGT will be apportioned between time of ownership and the amount of time it was your PPOR.

    BC, costs incurred while construction is happening, is potentially deductible. This was decided with the case of Steele about 10 years ago. Mrs Steele took about 10 years to develiop a property – in fact she never did develop the property (from memory) but she was still able to claim interest etc because she intended to rent the property out when she eventually developed.

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    See the movie 'end of watch'

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    That is the trouble with international investments. This is a very complex area and you must expect to pay for this extra complexity. You need someone with a masters in tax, as the average tax person wouldn't know much.

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    richard1983 wrote:
    I was sure that is what read in 0 to 130 properties in 3.5 years…

    A fairy tale…

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    I think you should keep your business trading accounts with a different bank. What could happen if you have a hard time and your accounts look bad – your bank could start to get worried. If you were going to try to get over this bad period by borrowing more money from the same bank then they would be even more worried.

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    There could be a pty ltd company as trustee (and should be). Each unit holder could be a separate pty ltd company as trustee for another discretionary trust.

    You have to consider who will control the trustee. Who will be director? How many directors, How owns the shares in the trustee company. What happens if a director dies, how will a new director be decided. Probate may take 6 months. Who will be director of each separate trustee company underneath. Will these directors need to give personal guarantees etc?

    Careful planning is needed from a tax, legal and finance perspective.

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    You entered into a contract and you now want to break that contract. I would suggest you read your contract in full and see if there was any cooling off provisions and then determine if you notified them in time.

    Also consider contacting the department of fair trading in your state.

    Cancelling the credit card won't save you as the bank can still let the charges go through and chase you for the money.

    You should take this very seriously as they could easily take you to court and win and then you would have a judgement on your credit file for the next 5 years. They can still chase you for the money and possibly seize assets.

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    richard1983 wrote:
    Grrrr… I like a family trust because of simple finance which allows the ability not to hit the borrowing cap of other paths

    Richard, what do you mean by this? This is not the case from my experience

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    Its good in theory but you have to plan for every possible eventuallity.

    What will happen with finance? All directors and unit holders need to guarantee the loan. If 5 people guarantee the loan then this is going to be 5 times as risky as an individal buying and hurt future borrowing capacity of everybody. This can be structured around so only one person need to guarantee – but then you have to ask who and should this person be compensated for the risk they are taking.

    Think, death divorce and bankruptcy of each person too.

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    nkrasn wrote:
    I am new to property investing but I am looking to buy an investment property and I have a company Pty Ltd set up as Family Trust. So in a nut shell, I am trying to confirm whether there are more pros to using a family trust to buy an IP???

    As my new tax accountant says there isn't much difference.

    Also, many years down the road, if I want to transfer the IP property into my child's name, is it  a simple process using a family trust as opposed to buying in my own name outright?

    cheers

    Natasha

    Why do you already have a trust set up? If this is trading it may not be a good idea to buy property in this same trust.

    And I agree with RPI, there is a huge difference between a company and a company acting as trustee.

    If you want to transfer the property from the trust to a child there will be stamp duty and CGT, legals, loans to worry about. You could leave the property in the trust and pass on control to the child, once they are over 18 – they could just become the director of the trustee.

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    Thats right accountants cannot give asset protection advice as this is legal advice and they are not trained in this area. But many do, so take their advice with a grain of salt, but it is important to get the tax advice as well.

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