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- Anthony K wrote:Hi All
Just noticed a small typo when I checked my previous notes on 3/03/2013 reproduced below:.
You would need to study S71 of Sub-division C of SISA, – In House Assets, and the anti-avoidance provisions in that section, also
SISR 13.3A, SISR 13.22C and D
SISA Sections
S52, S62, S65, S70, S109 and
IT IS HERE
SISA S173, Special Income and
ITAA 1936 S102 Public Trading Trust
AND SHOULD BE AS BELOW
ITAA 1936 S173, Special Income and
ITAA 1936 S102 Public Trading Trust
Will try to better in future
Regards to All
Anthony K
Hi ANthony,
I am just now looking at the legislation you have cited about. Are you sure you have the ITAA sections correct?
s102 related to revocable trusts
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1936240/s102.html
and s 173 seems to be irrelevant to this discussion
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1936240/s173.htmlThanks
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If there is a subject to finance clause and you notify the vendor before the end of that clause date then you may be able to get out of the contract, but this will depend on the wording. You may have to provide proof of finance with ANZ being rejected for example.
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You could possibly deduct 3 years worth of expenses. I suggest you get a new accountant. Try james at http://www.houseofwealth.com.au
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What is better tax wise will depend on time – so have a horizon to work things out.
Think of a lot of what ifs…
And tax is not the only thing to consider, maybe it is a minor thing.
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If you sign an agreement subject to something occuring then if that something doesn't occur (such as finance approval) you can terminate the contract.
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If they are paying anymore than their share of food and ulities then it is rent and declarable. You will also partially lose the CGT free exemption.
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Yes, looks like the parents are locked into the contract now.
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Freckle wrote:PS:Terry might be able to confirm this but I believe that as long as you're paying something towards settling an account on a regular basis they can't have a judgment awarded against you.
Don’t think this is the case. If you breach an agreement someone can take you to court and if you lose a judgment will be issued against. If you don’t turn up then a default judgment will be listed too. Once that occurs you may be able to pay off the judgment debt by installments.
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First place to start would be to get a copy of Trust Magic book by Dale Gatherum Goss. An easy to understand introduction to trusts aim at the property investor.
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It could be there was a contract in place.
I would suggest you write to the company and dispute the bill and state you had an agreement for $4500 to $5000. Be nice about it and see what they say.
If you get a nasty reply then reassess.
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Well, oral contracts can be binding. But was it a fixed price agreement? What were the other terms? Was it even an agreement?
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gmh454 wrote:Richard you seemed to indicate that a 80% loan through a fund is available. Could you tell us which lender goes this high with a SMSF. Thought they stuck to around 66%.That is how Richard makes his money, knowing what to put where. It is intellectual property built up over many years of hard work. Why not use Richard to do the loan for you.
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dangermouse99 wrote:Hi TerryW and RichardMy friend wants to buy and live in the front house, $400K is all he can afford so he can help me by putting dollars in while I develop the 2x Townhouses at the back. Do u mean to divide the land into 3 as there is 2 Townhouses behind the main front house? This is a new equation for me so just try to get my head around it. Also how much and how long does this sort of structure take to setup.
Many Many thanks for your help.
Cheers
DM
You basically have to decide how to divy up the land on purchase. Then each party buys in the final percentages. It is is going to be 3 blocks then may 30% 30% 40% depending on a few things.
If you don’t do it properly up front then stamp duty will be payable on subdivision if you change the names on each block from 2 or 3 to 1 name.
You need legal and tax advise on this and then you need general legal advice on structure as well.
It will be a bit complex and will cost you a few thousand, but this may be able to save much more by reducing stamp duty in the future.
You will also need finance advice because if your friend chips in $400k cash but he is on title then he will have to guarantee any loan that you get to buy the land.
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Main residences are generally exempt. But not always. eg>
If you run a buinsess from the home,
If the land area is over 2 hectares
If you are in the business of buying and renovating.
If it is a normal size block with one house and no renters or business conducted at home then it would probably be exempt and you would probably be able to argue that you are not doing this as a business.
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That must have been great. You should have trademarked the name maybe!
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Qlds007 wrote:Amazing what advice some so called experts provide.Met up with a couple of forum clients earlier today in Melbourne and amazed what advice their existing Financial Planner has given them on what they can and cannot do with their SMSF.
Nothing amazes me in the current climate.
In saying this dying is a radical way of getting out of getting out of a liability claim.
Cheers
Yours in Finance
I saved a bloke once from a financial planner – sort of. Planner recommended he sell his commercial building to his SMSF and lease it back. This was in the statement of advice prepared by the planner. Only problem the land was leasehold and he didn’t own the land. This would have been a breach of the SIS Act and his fund would have been non complying.
The fin planner critised me as being too negative.
Amazingly the guy stayed with the planner.
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Jamie M wrote:Terryw wrote:Furthermore you will lose the CGT exemption status.Which is a massive thing to lose!
Imagine owning your PPOR for a couple of decades under the wrong structure – then selling it to find out that you have to pay a nice chunk of CGT.
Cheers
Jamie
I had a client once who owned their PPOR in a company. There were parents and 4 children and all contributed to the purchase so their accountant suggested a company be set up to own the property with all 4 shareholders. Great.
But then they got hit with land tax and the CGT tax on the sale. The refused to pay the land tax so the OSR put their company into administration. They then had a hard time accepting this and getting the company back with thousands in legal fees. They then heard that there was a primary production exemption. They had on beehive but put in for the exemption with the OSR asking them about 4 pages of detailed questions on how many bees they kept and where they sold their honey etc. In the end they had to wear it all.
Accountant had died so they couldn’t have sued him.
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I had a client that optioned up about 20 blocks of land off the plan. They tripled in value before settlement. He was a millionaire out of that deal. I’ve also had other deals where I have sold an option and it hasn’t been exercised.
Are you willing to lose the option amount?
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Transferring your main residence to a trust will create several problems and won't assist in increasing borrowing capacity.
You will pay stamp duty, possibly land tax and receive little in the way of asset protection. Furthermore you will lose the CGT exemption status.
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IF YOUr friend is going to be living in the front house then a trust may not be suitable.
Maybe tenants in common might be better. Your share in your trust and his share in his name. Draw up a deed of partition and then settle. later divide the land into 2 with 1 block owned 100% by each of you. Possibly no stamp duty on the split.
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