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    There is probably no reason to separate the loans for tax purposes at the moment. It would only be necessary if you were wanting to pay one loan down independently of the other – for example if you moved into one.

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    Thanks Paul.

    And mcho, you would be able to do with your property as you see fit. However if you were wanting to show prospective buyyers through before settlement then you would need a special condition in the contract.

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    It would be good to have a ‘mark all forums read’ type button too.

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    I read that the other day. It seems to be a technique which aims to control spending by giving the borrower a fixed amount to live on each year.

    My concern is taxation. If this house ever became an investment it would be a disaster.

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    Thanks for that Paul. I see that one looks at the situation regarding an investor who does a joint venture with a property manager to sell the property on installment contracts. Do you know of any other ruling where the owner just sellings on their own without a JV involved?

    Just thinking the ATO may regard someone doing it on their own as being in business themselves????

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    sambarry wrote:
    Thanks guys! My next question is.: Let's say the spreadsheet say's that the property is going to cost me about $80 per week. Would tax benefits cover this to make it neutrally geared? Do people rely on tax for an IP to be positive or neutrally geared?

    Happy Easter to all,

    Sam

    This would depend on the income of the owner of the property and the amount of depreciation available. Possibly the tax refund would larger than $80 pw and this would mean cashflow positive after tax.

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    Danlawler wrote:
    Hi well done on saving such a large amount so early in your life.

    Like most of the advice I would caution anyone about using online services to set up any sort of structure themselves (trust, company etc) unless they are a trained accountant or really understand what they are doing. If you set it up in-correctly any mistakes you make have the potential to cost you greatly through tax implications later on so it is reccommended to go through a good accountant for this. 

    Good luck.

    I would recommend a lawyer over an accountant because a trust is a legal relationship between various parties. for example what is the nature of the powers of appointment, the powers of the trustee, the rights of beneficiaries etc. An accountant wouldn’t know and couldn’t advise on this. There are also serious asset protection implications for the way it is set up and who should take what roles and how these roles should be structured. again only a lawyer can advise on this.

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    The investor will have to settle based on lower of purchase price or value and then wait for a while before applying for an increase.

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    not_so_lucky wrote:
    Thank you Terry

    Unfortunately, there is no other choice but to transfer the property, for various reasons.

    Are you able to tell me more about the transfer being voided, or where I can read more about this, and if it will apply to us?

    It will apply to you, but the laws are different depending on why and how you are transferring. You should look at the bankruptcy act s120, 121 and 121A and also conveyancing act for the state the property is in – can’t remember which section off the top of my head.

    If you had just went to a conveyancer you wouldn’t have found this out.

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    Why not use a broker?

    It is not just about rate, but structuring the loans that is important and a good broker should be able to assist with this. If you go straight to the lender they are more likely to stitch you up.

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    It can be possible to get the valuation done before hand. But the lender will only lend based on valuation or purchaser price whichever is lower.

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    This should be possible Freckle.

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    Havea read of the contract. You might be able to terminate and keep their deposit, and then resell at a higher amount. Did you get the full 10%?

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    alfrescodining wrote:
    Terry, where does negligence come into it?  Isn't it ok to rely on the fact that the builder is the one who has the insurance, not the developer?

    I don’t know if you could rely on that. I was thinking more along the lines of the individual being sued for something outside the development. If not structured well creditors could get at the development.

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    scotts wrote:
    Terryw, is there not some rule about moving back into a property and making it your PPR again before selling?

    Yes, http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1997240/s118.140.html

    but only if sell one within 6 months of buying the other.

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    For general situations you cannot avoid CGT on both – perhaps you could if no growth!

    You need tax advice on how to minimise any CGT.

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    Hi Kenny,

    It will come down to your negotiation skills and then the solicitor rules and regulations. Have a look at the solicitor rules VIC and Legal professional act vic.

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    You need to consider the following (non exhaustive) list

    asset protection for negligence and contract

    asset protection for incapacity and death

    Succession plan

    land tax

    stamp duty

    income/CGT tax

    GST

    Loan structures

    Serviceability

    personal guarantees

    social security issues

    future plansfamily

    situation

    etc

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    You can challenge it, but you received it near the start and let the lawyers proceed with their work. Did you sign a costs agreement? Even if you didn’t you implied you agreed to it by continuing to instruct. But this doesn’t mean you cannot ask them to reduce fees or you could challange it

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    Mad.Max wrote:
    Yes Terry, I am eligible (post 55) to withdraw all or parts of my super, if I do not intent to work. (Have spoken with super, have the form in front of me.)

    The land is paid for. The money I withdraw from super will provide the required cashflow to build; then sell the existing house and move into the new one.

    Sounds good Max. Maybe you are not mad after all?

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