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adriannqld wrote:Hi guys,I almost got burnt by my last tenant
I self Managed and he stoped paying and then wouldn't move out. Made up BS excuses. Followed RTA.QLD website, did the right notices and evicted him but he was still there.
Lodged a dispute. Who knows how long they will take to reply.
A couple of days past and I thought I would have a look to see if they were still there. No car in sight but lights on.
So I knocked on the door and the Tenants mate Answered. Tenant was not there.
I called the police saying, the truth as always, I dont know who is in my apartment but the tenant was evicted last week. Its not him in the apartment, and they were evicted last week. There is possibly damages done, or maybe this guy is a squatter, he said he was a friend of the Tenant but it looks like he may be living there.
The police were great. They said they would have a look, find out who he is, and have a look around. (possible damages, no need for notice).
Well the guy answered the door for me in a flash but didnt open for the police. He was hiding stuff or something. We entered. they found some Marijuana, and scared the crap out of this guy. But being nice police they didn't charge him. The tenant was due home from work but didn't come. Police didn't want to kick the guy out as his young Daughter was upstairs. (Stuff the guy but a kid is a kid, pity she couldnt have a better father). Told me I could go to the Courthouse for a Warrant of Protection, and that it would get processed quickly.
The next day the apartment was dirty but empty.
He moved his furniture out of the house but in unsecured carport.
Can I take it?
Its abandoned? He still owes me $1000 Plus New Door, Locks, and fees to clean the place. There is no bond left. I want to take his stuff till he pays because going to court will take 1-2 months, then he still may not even pay.
Im curious as to if I can keep his stuff, however this story is here to Thank the Police a bit, there is so many horror stories, the Police really want to help. and hope for anyone else that gets into similar situation.
Happy Days.
Lucky you got some nice police. No you cannot take his stuff – how do you know it is his for starters. You need to look for the ‘abandoned goods act’ is similar and see what rights you may have to it.
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yellina wrote:Dear Tiger Miger,If your mum's money is sitting in your account. It will definitely decrease the interest. following are the few recommendations.
- Make sure you have a written agreement. Stating that the money belongs to her.
- Please update your will with her, entitling the money if some thing goes wrong.
In my perspective you are doing a right thing by buying the house from your partner. You are saving him lot of cost. Hope he realizes that.
Good luck.
Hari Yellina
Hari, if it is mum’s money it won’t fall into Tiger’s estate.
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FMS wrote:My attempt at humour was lost in translation or perhaps the words I chose?Sorry Colin, as a lawyer I rarely joke so humour often confuses me.
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FMS wrote:Thanks for sharing Terry.A commentary on gifting funds in order to be deductible would be nice


Gifting funds isn’t deductible.
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mathyland12 wrote:However im only partially comfortable about "Who" to go and see first to set this up? A lawyer? An Accountant? or Financial Advisor? If the answer is the Accountant, should i use my current accountant? I already have a family trust that has purchased one property and my current accountant knows my situation well. (sorry as im not sure if this is a silly question). Similar should i be using the same finance broker? or should i split up my lending?Sorry for so many questions.
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You will need financial advice, so I would say a financial planner should be the first person to contact. Decide whether you really should set up the SMSF and what it will invest in etc.
Then you will need legal advice on the terms of the trust deed, how to structure the trustee company, who should be director, shareholder, terms of the constitution. Also consider control of the company upon your death or incapcity etc. You will also need legal advice on who should enter any contracts and under what conditions.
Then you may need tax advvice, but the fin planner may be able tp provide the basics.
At the same time, or just after set up, contact a mortgage broker to get the pre-approval in place.
Then one you have found a property contact the lawyer before signing, get the contract reviewed, get finance fully approved and then exchange contracts.
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rc388 wrote:Hello, I live in NSW and planning to buy an investment property also in NSWIn terms of loan structure I’m looking to take out a second loan based on the equity from PPOR to act as the deposit and pay also for the stamp duty – its almost like a line of credit
I understand that stamp duty paid on title transfer is counted as part of the cost base and the stamp duty on the mortgage can be claimed over 5 years
My question is can I claim the interest on the second loan ie. What was used to borrow to pay for the stamp duty on title transfer because I have used it solely for the purpose of producing income? No private use from this account
Thanks
Generally yes, but it depends how you structure things.
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I beleive the legislation is worded so that the deporeciation is added back whether you claim it or not. So by not claiming it you are not preventing this and are just throwing money away – or donating to a good cause however you look at it.
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I am not sure how non lawyers can set up companies and trusts. Even if a lawyer is preparing the documentation a non lawyer can not give legal advice so what happens if a client asks who should be trustee or who should be director? What does this clause mean? etc
Also neither accountants of financial planners will be covered by their PI insurers for legal advice. For the amount of profit you are turning over is it worth the risk?
Just a few weeks ago I set up a custodian company for a SMSF who entered into a contract to purchase a property in the name of the SMSFs when it was intended to borrow because of unqualified advice. It was a close call but we saved the client only to have them copy St George’s custodian sample deed word for word! Signed up they even left ‘insert name here’ all over the deed where they were supposed to actually inser the names! My retainer didn’t extend to the custodian deed – but I had to warn them anyway.
In summary, only lawyers can prepare deeds and only lawyers can set up companies and trusts, including SMSFs and bare trusts. This is the case even if an accountant or a fina planner uses deeds prepared by a lawyer because it involves legal advice. What you need to do is to let the lawyer set up the trust completely and then you can give financial advice – if you hold an AFLS or are an authorised rep.
It would be interesting to hear what AFSL dealer groups think about this.
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Redwood wrote:G'day QLDs007,Our fees are clearly stated on our website firstly this includes custodian trustee (including ASIC fees) plus custody deed.
Let me clarify $1750 is for bare trust or Limited Recourse Borrowing Agreement (LRBA) set up NOT SMSF set up.
Are you saying $1750 is steep? please prove me wrong here.
As you know ASIC fees are just under $500. Excuse me if we are on different pages, however, I will stand by our fees 100% as has been mentioned in the thread, many others charge much higher for these services (up to $5k) and many of our clients are extremely attracted by our fees and more importantly our experience in the area.
Please clarify what your quote of $950 involved as if it was for custody deed plus custodian trustee it just would not be sensible in my opinion in consideration of ASIC fees for setting up a company plus labour.
I charge about $1000 for a company set up plus $1000 for the custodian deed plus GST, so $2200 all up. So your fees are reasonable.
But I am a lawyer and a mortgage broker and I often thrown in a free Custodian deed here and there if the client gets the loan through my broking company – they are not as complex as the SMSF deed.
Also include legal advice in the above as well. There are complex legal issues with trusts.
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Not claiming depreciation throwing money away.
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tigermiger wrote:The house figure to buy my ex out has been agreed and I think my next step now is to get a home loan solely in my name.Because I am not sure if I will rent it out or live in there, am I best to get an I.O loan?
My mum has generously offered to but her savings into my offset account (as she is currently taxed too much), provided I get a will prepared to outline that it is her money. Can anyone see anything wrong with this? I believe if it is in an offset account, I can take her money in/ out whenever she asks for it and I won’t get penalized and while it is sitting in their it is helping me?
IO loan would be best as it allows you to maintain a high loan balance and with the offset you can still achieve interest savings.
There are many issues with the mum’s money. She should seek legal advice. At the very least you need a written loan agreement and consider what would happen to her money if you:
died
became insane/into a coma
separated
went bankrupt – she would be an unsecured creditor.Also having a will won’t help her as it is her money. You can’t leave her her own money – she would be entitled to the money back anyway. However it is still a very good idea to have the will and there may be a few strategies which could be employed
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mathyland12 wrote:Thanks to all who have respondedAfter speaking to some friends over the weekend, they said they were scared off buying real estate with SMSF due to the fees involved and then the time taken to manage the fund.
Is there any advice to this? How much does it cost to set up a SMSF so that it can buy real estate?
Mat
Yep it is rather costly.
I, as a lawyer, charge $4k to $5k to set up the SMSF and custodian. You need 2 trust deeds and 2 companies.
You may also need financial adviceThe lenders will also charge you a fair bit, a large app fee and/or fees to review the deeds
You will have ongoing fees such as tax returns and auditing and ASIC fees
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Paterson00 wrote:Thanks for the info. I'll be losing that straight away then since my wife will be running a dog boarding from our house as soon as we buy it. She runs a dog walking business at the moment and she has a lot of requests for boarding which we cant do in our rental. If I have lost that already, I may as well make as much from the property as possible in income so long as the insurances make it viable.Think about some ways to structure this. perhaps you could buy it and rent to her business or a trustee could buy and you could rent from the trust and then claim part of the rent as a busniess expense etc
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Paterson00 wrote:Well that's opened my eyes to something I didn't yet know too. I didn't know that there was such a thing as CGT exemption on your main residence so thanks for that, good news. Presumably that's as simple as it sounds. If you make a gain on the property you live in, there is nothing to pay on tax on the gain?Unfortunately in the world of tax law, and law in general, nothing is simple.
To get the main residence exemption there are lots of conditions such as:
– individual owner
– only counting one residence (even between spouses- including defacto)
– less than 2 hectares
– no used for business or income producing purposes
– moved in as soon as practical after settlement
etc
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rc388 wrote:Hi after reading Steves book on trusts I generally understand the usefulness behind asset protection however am I also missing something? The loan on which the asset is typically paid for is secured by the bank so they have legal right to sell etc if repayments are not made; most land lords take out rental insurance in the event a Tennant gets injured etc and you can’t distribute losses for negative gearingI’m looking to start to buy an IP so any advice on structures would be appreciated
Thanx
Think about what would happen if you were to be sued – non related to the tenants, but outside, such as business collapse.
Also there are ways to set up so as to reduce the personal guarantees and thereby reduce risk. Remember the motto “always ask for a personal guarantee but never give one if ‘possible’ “
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Very true!
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SHould I sell all my shares in a few weeks??
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It would be taxable income and yo would lose the main residence CGT exemption.
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Tresbeaus wrote:I have a question regarding the use of structures to own property.I have been reading so many differing opinions its doing my head in. If you use a Trust structure to own property,do you lose the benefit of being able to claim costs of holding the property ie interest on loan,depreciation,maintenance and so on against your income?It is not so much as using ‘structures’ but ‘how to structure’.
A trust is a separate enetity for tax purposes. You won’t be able to claim anything, the trust will claim expenses, depreciation etc. If there is a profit this will be distributed. If there is a loss it will sit there, only to be offset by future gains.
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