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    As a lawyer and broker I would say don't cross. I can see no advantages at all only detriments.

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    Dyna wrote:
    Thanks again for all the responses. I have another question about structuring. TheFinanceShop mentioned doing an equity release. What tax implications would occur when we sell the property and I want to pay my FIL back? What if we were to roll the profit into the next deal? My accountant has recommended I set up a trust (planning to buy, renovate and sell a few properties over the next 2 years). Would FIL need to be a beneficiary? Basically, I'm looking for the best structure that will minimise risk and tax for my FIL. He is a sole trader. Any further help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    Bascially no 'structure' is going to protect your FIL because he would generally be giving a guarantee and allowing his property to be used as security.

    There are ways to structure things so there is both asset protection and tax savings. Just bororw the deposit from FIL. No personal guarantees and no cross collateralising. If you go down he would lose the money he had lent you but not more.

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    Dyna

    profits are still taxed, even if you roll it into a next deal. If a trust doesn't distribute it will be taxed on the top tax rate – 45%

    If you want to access the equity in the property it can be messy depending how it is structured. If you had just borrowed money from FIL then little issue. If your FIL's propertyis used as security then he will need to consent to any increase in the loan. It would probably be better for you to wait until you have enough equity and removed him and his property and then you are on your won and can do increases as your please.

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    Not correct againShelbyduck

    If you are bankrupted a creditor may go after the trust assets. And they may be successful to a certain extent depending on the structure of the trust, terms of the deed and how it was used.

    If a tenant sues the owner of the house then they will sue the trustee. If this is you your personal assets are totally exposed.

    If the property is in your name or under a 'trust' either way you would have insurance and this will probably cover most event.

    Funny comments about tax. There is no conflict of interest for a lawyer to advice on tax. Taxation is covered by legislation and regulations – ie laws. Laws are something lawyers advise on, but tax agents can also advise on. However tax is only one small consideration with trusts and tax agents could advise on the non tax aspects:

    1 asset protection

    2. succession

    3 control

    4 corporations act

    5 fmaily law issues

    6 bankruptcy issues

    7 terms of the deed

    etc

    Only a solicitor can set up a trust. An accountant would sell a deed prepared by a solicitor. They can't legally do this in my opinion and in the opinion of the Courts – recent WA case states this is legal advice.

    Some accountants charge by the hour, and not all lawyers do. I am a lawyer and a chartered tax advisor and I charge on a fixed fee basis.

    Whether you need a new trust or can use the existing will depend on the terms of the trust, where you are buying and how it has all been structured.

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    A trust is a legal person, but a relationship and only solicitors can advice on setting up trust relationships.

    Some of your points are misguided. A trust cannot protect other assets you have for example. The asset protection aspects arise because a assets held by a trustee of a discretionary trust are not assets of any one beneficiary and generally won't fall into the hands of creditors if any one beneficiary were to become bankrupt.

    It is generally no harder for a trustee to get finance than the same trustee borrowing in their own right.

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    A person wants to know if they can borrow against property located in the US. I am not sure what KYC has to do with it- no not a form of lubricant, but Know Your Client (i imagine). So I guess he is saying that the potential mortgagor must go to the US to get a loan because Australia has a KYC policy and therefore Arun presumes the US must also have one.

    Arun are you a new broker?

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    Arun Bhuta wrote:
    Dear kevsgn,

    In Australia a mortgage broker can not put application to bank unless then have done personal checks. Known as KYC.

    Similar requirements will be there in US. Hence you could not avoid going to US that is my understanding, but you need to verify with mortgage brokers with US.

     

    Another post which makes no sense!

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    Arun Bhuta wrote:
    Dear Ynchai,

    Early payment is required to be done but in Offset account. Hence to pay or not to pay is not the question but how to pay is question.

    I am going to be rude and straight to the point!.

    Arun, you don't know what you are talking about!. You are dangerous.

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    Yep. Avoid one big loan for 2 reasons:

    1. Hard to apportion interest

    2. Impossible to pay the the non deductible portion off first.

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    I would first look at some asset protection strategies and then consider paying down non deductible debt before reborrowing to invest.

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    All banks have these sorts of errors unfortunately. I remember I sold a property and still had a $150k LOC with the CBA for years – it is probably still open if I look into it.

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    I am doing one now. St George can go up to 85% depending on the security.

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    I take it you may be refinancing?

    You need to think of the tax aspects. Which ever way you do it the $50 could still be available but one way may mean yuo pay more tax.

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    I just sold 5 acres in Tahmoor a few years ago. Prices have been booming.

    I suggest your dad seek taxation advice urgently. It could be worthwhile changing ownership now before sub-divison as this could save tax and possibly stamp duty. You should also carefully plan how you are to receive this money – from both a legal point of view (estate planning and asset protection etc) and from a tax perspective.

    How you do all this will depend on a whole host of factors.

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    Are you appropriately licenced?

    You could charge a fixed fee or a % fee. Whatever the developer is willing to pay.

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    lea wrote:
    Thanks for your response, Terry. The properties are all in or around Adelaide. I'm not sure that same law applies in terms of stamp duty in South Australia, unless it's been court ordered, so I think he would need to pay stamp duty on the full purchase price.

    In that case then I don't think there are any concessions in SA, but am not totally sure.

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    If in Victoria a property can be transferred between spouses at full market rates without stamp duty. So you could possibly sell your former PPOR to your husband who could borrow 100% to buy it. Funds released could be used to pay down the non deductible debt. This could greatly improve your tax position for minimal outlay.

    But seek legal advice before doing this.

    Also with a property that has no hope of growth, there is generally no point in keeping if you could sell, pay down the no deductible debt and then borrow to buy a better performing property.

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    I would suggest it all depends – if you sold those properties could you make more money elsewhere?

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    Current balance of your super should only be one thing to consider when opening a SMSF.

    Balances will grow with each pay cheque.

    There are also estate planning reasons to open a SMSF too – taking control of your super benefits and ensuring they are properly taken care of if you were to die.

    I've just done a SMSF loan with ST George and it went as smooth as silk.

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    How is the fund performing so far? It must be just over a year old now.

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