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Hi Terry.
I will have to disagree with you there. People employ “professionals” and I use the term loosely for some people , to guide them through this process ( and other complicated things like insurance and accounting) and provide them with quality advice and limit risks.
What good are brokers if they arent helping the client avoid issues like this?
Are they there to just fill out paperwork? Some brokers get generous commissions for the life of the loan and should be providing value for the financial benefit they receive.From what I know is they havent declined the loan , just the build portion .
Yes I agree, a good broker would have avoided this. But it is a great step to try to pin any blame of negligence on that broker. I am a broker and at various industry sessions it is amazing to see the basic level of knowledge of brokers.
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Best to speak to a lawyer and a tax adviser. yes you could enter into a loan agreemennt with a relative and then refinance this loan with a bank loan. Need to be careful as there are many issues.
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The seller could appoint you attorney with a limitationn to dealing with the property. However you would have a fiduciary duty to act in this best interests unless the deed specifies otherwise. You could lodge a caveat if he gives you permission or if you sign a contract to purchase (or otherwise have an equitiable interest in the property).
Neither of the above would prevent him from buyer another property though.
What are you trying to do?
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Speak to a lawyer about issuing a statutory demand under the corporations act. If they don’t pay or set it aside within 28 days you can wind them up.
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Nightmares:
tenant died in a property – I had the agent push her under the rug hoping no one would notice but that didn’t work. I did let her out of the lease though.Off the plan came in short on the valuation – luckily I terminated the contract sucessfully. But the worry and waiting left me with many missed opportunities.
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Now, I was wondering who would be at fault here.
1) The broker giving the advice to fix the loan
2) The bank who should have known it is a house and land package and shuoldnt have approved finance for the land without the build.
They are now asking for him to add an extra $40k which isnt small change.Your mate is at fault. People should take responsibility for their actions! Put it down to a learning experience. it doesn’t seem like the bank has declined the loan, just that he needs to contribute more cash
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I think the problem in WA is that the price has somehow come out at that level and all the players are just keeping the status quo – If your competition is charging high prices you can too. All it would take is one or two new entrants to come in at national prices and then market forces would come into play.
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Collusion – ACCC should be the point of call.
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I think Ollie may want to bring the deduction forward to this year to offset this years income, which may be higher than it will be expected for next year.
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Thanks Benny, that would be good and would definitely take the pressure off. The accountant said needed to have the funds drawn down to accrue the interest. Well check again
If you want to prepay interest then you have to be charged the interest before 30June of it will fall over next eyar.
I just tried to do a prepay for a client with Homeside and they have now withdrawn this product, so hope they are not your lender
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Yes Benny – usually contract date.
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Possibly.
If you or an associate control the company it may be a related party. A transfer could not be done of the property unless it was business real property. However there could be an exemption to transfer the shares of the company. Look at Reg 13.22 SiS Regs and seek legal advice.
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Yes, it is not easy Benny
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Consider
1. taxation, now and future, including CGT
2. asset protection
3. estate planning
4. control
5. family law
6. incapacity
7. death
8. serviceabilityTerryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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Yes, generally GST only applies to new residential property – up to 5 years old is classed as new.
So asset protection from bankruptcy. strenght will depend on how set up and operated.
Income can be distributed to beneficiaries of a trust who pay tax on the income.
Most major banks would consider this – probably not on end value though. YOu may need a smaller more private lender for that.
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I am a solicitor and broker and doing both conveyancing and loan for a client. ready to settle within 3 weeks..Just waiting now for another few weeks to pass by… Not always like this though. I recall another loan that only get the approval 2 weeks before settlement.
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1. Asset protection from what? Usually income distribution as cashflow would be almost the same in a trust or out
2. yes, but higher rates
3. would need to be a director or shareholder usually to guarantee a trust loan
4. GST should be same in and out of a trustTerryw | Structuring Lawyers Pty Ltd / Loan Structuring Pty Ltd
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1. possiby up to 65% of end value
2. not sure what you are saying here/ once complete you could refinance into a cheaper loan product If individual titles then each title could have a separate loan – potentially a different bank and loan for each unit. IO is possible
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I have been a broker for about 13 years now and never seen a loan ported. They are pretty rare. I beleive some banks do need a reapplication and a checking of income etc while others don’t, unless the loan needs to be increased.
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hardly fair as the same services are used – garbage collection etc doesn’t differ between owners v tenants
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