Trusts are not legal entities so cannot borrow. It is the trustee that borrows, in their capacity as trustee.
Most banks will lend at normal rates and terms to trustees, whether they are individuals or companies. Residential loans in most cases.
If a company all the directors will need to give a personal guarantee.
If a trustee is borrowing the lender will need to review the trust deed and make sure the trustee has the power to borrow, to mortgage trust property and to be indemnified out of the trust assets.
Trustees of discretionary trusts and unit trusts are able to borrow, but not bare trusts – or no lender would lend to a bare trustee if they know they are acting as trustee.
i am no property lawyer, but there can be restriction covered by covenants on title and even laws which will restrict what can be done. Strata have the additional strata laws to contend with.
He should be seeking legal advice – from a lawyer, not a conveyancer.
Hi I am a joint tenant in a PPOR with my parents. About 5 years ago I transferred 33.33% of the title into my name in order to build a new house. I paid the required stamp duty at the time. Since then I have married and my wife and I have 3 other investment properties. Getting finance is such a hassle because in order to borrow funds, my parents need to be joint borrowers when I wish to draw equity out of our house (we all live in the house together BTW). I now want to transfer the remaining 66.66% into my name but obviously the property’s value has almost doubled since rebuilding from the previous old home but is there a way I can reduce or eliminate the stamp duty? There is a small amount of equity used but does it make a difference to the situation if there is a mortgage over the property or if it is owned 100% outright which I hope to be holding the title certificate in my hand early next year? Thanks
The only way to avoid duty is to argue that the parents hold their share of the property on trust for you. It would be a resulting trust that arises because of the circumstances. We have helped a couple of people transfer title without duty – or nominal duty in situations like this in NSW.
If having the property mortgaged won’t necessarily affect the duty aspects, but practically the mortgage will need to be discharged when title changes hands – which would mean a new loan application if it won’t be paid out.
To get a loan you would need to qualify in terms of serviceability and would generally need to keep lvr to 80% so it will depend on the income of the borrowers plus the LVR.
Some lenders may also not like 2 properties on one title, but many do.
What I have seen happen with CBA is that someone might put in some money into the loan today and then think they can redraw it immediately or the next day, but they have to wait for the next monthly payment to come out first. I don’t have any CBA loans atm, so have not experienced this, others have not had any issues.
So after you split the loan I would ask them if I paid say $200,000 into the loan today, could I redraw $200,000 tomorrow?
$5k pw is about $250k pa after tax. or about $400k before that
To get to this level you would need about $10mil in unencumbered assets yielding 4% after costs. That might mean 25 $500k properties all fully paid off.
That would be very difficult to do.
To make it easier
a) structure it to be more tax effective – so you might only need $300k pa before tax.
That would still mean $7.5mil in unencumbered assets
b) try to get a higher return. if you could get a 5% return that would mean $6mil in unencumbered assets.
But you already have $5000pw so aren’t you already there?
When you sell you eat up equity with the agent fees and then when you buy again you have stamp duty, conveyancing, etc So you might lose about 8% of the value.
You also have to consider the loan. Could you qualify for another loan again?
Think about the effect on the pension too – could you be over the assets test if you downsize?
You could leave it in other investments but you would soon need to liquidate those so you could have the cash ready for settlement. Lenders will want to know where the funds to complete are coming from.
I am a tax lawyer with a credit licence. with lots of experience in this area. You will need to apportion the interest if you do not split, furthermore, you will be paying back deductible debt with every deposit into the loan.
Splitting a loan means making one loan into 2 (or more).
This reply was modified 5 years, 4 months ago by Benny. Reason: Editing as per Terry's correction - for clarity
I did something similar once. I had the deposit invested in shares and the signed a contract, coming up to settlement I was trying to wait to sell at a peak. and settlement was approaching so i had to bite the bullet and sell at a price less that I could have a few weeks prior.