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    … talk to the bank, and work out a deal, the more personal investment loans you bring in, ask for the interest rate to be discounted a little more each time… if they cant do that… get them to give you more incentives and extras…

    … believe, threatening will only go so far… what happens when you want another loan, and another loan, or you want to reuse an existing loan your exiting….

    … so far being co-operative with the bank, have been able to get huge discounted interest rates…. and majority of all there, products and services… (for a long time now, they have looked at each loan as a transaction, not an income test…**no more need for payslips**)

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    Hi Guys,

    11 second soloution has been superseeded… (it doesnt work in this property climate) at Steve’s Master Seminar, he introduced people to the “Advance 11 second solution”

    … but personally, i dont use the 11 second solution or advance 11 second solution, it is a benchmark for sougthing out properties…. but there are other more accurate mental caculations, in finding +ve geared properties, though they are tighter on the gross yeild %, yet its that few % people miss out on and over look.

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    Hi Redwing,

    heres that acutally link and story i was talking about,

    its just before, halfway down the page, but this is the title above the paragraph…

    weblink- http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

    The Anatomy of a Windows Attack Zombie


    firewall test against, blackice http://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm

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    Hi Redwing,

    sorry name mistake with subzero, its actually sub7, but overall its exactly as what i described, go to this site, these guys are the anti hackers…

    http://www.grc.com/default.htm

    and go to there hot spots and do the sheild up test + the leak test, this will test your firewall to see if it, is completly unpassable.

    but best to save this site to your favourites, http://www.grc.com, and every now and again just test your firewall to make sure its in complete working order..

    you should be right, afterwards, with the sheild and leak test, testings.

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    Hi Redwing,

    honestly get rid of blackice, it was good for some time, but theres a virus or worm called Subzero, it allows remote computers to attack your computer, steal your ip, and then access other computers for them, its almost impossible to get rid of subzero worm/virus once you got it, but blackice was initally created by hackers, i know this, but i cant find the weblinks…

    just posting to a friend now in astalavista.com (hacker forums) about blackice and subzero, will post links when found, but stick with the zone alarm, definetly much secure for variety of reasons.

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    Hi Redwing,

    just noted you said you have BlackIce, IMHO get rid of that program, thats a hackers program to break into other programs, ive seen mates use it, (the worm or virus, that BlackIce, cant detect is Subzero) (if i recall right), best to stick with the suggested programs above, will post link about BlackIce when found…

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    Originally posted by Aceyducey:

    You can leverage shares up to around 70% depending on the share & the margin lender. However beware of margin calls :)

    Hi Acey,

    actually you can now leverage up to 75% on most bank shares, and some of the bigger blue chip stocks.. which is great.. but doesnt leave much room, in case of a margin call…

    Hi Yack

    Now its time for me to investigate shares, options and share trading – where do I start, what web sites are worth looking at, whats a good beginners book for share trading, what forums are available.

    try this website out.. theres quite a few forum members from here, that talk on both sites… but this stock forum, i feel is honestly really great..

    http://www.aussiestockforums.com/cgi-bin/stocks/YaBB.cgi

    Louise Bedfords, books are great for begineers, and many of the “trading in a nutshell” trading books are great too, keep away from options to begin with, until you understand how the equity market works, but if you, understand fundamentals, your going to be laughing, fundamentals can give, very strong indication of stocks that are going to perform over the medium to long term, but have a stronger and healthier position in response to margin lending…

    most good books, from most good book stores, will have many books available on technical analysis, this could take some time to master, though, with technical analysis and fundamentals, your trading positions, will have stronger, but more profitable trades…

    Technical Analysis by Martin Pring (cant remember, but, i think thats the name of the book, is also great for, and in detail for the learning curve..)

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    Hi Redwing,

    if your gonna download kazaa, get the kazaa lite version, reasoning behind this is, gets rid of the spyware, and ad pop up, but make sure you virus scan everything you download from kazaa…

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    only 33 hours a week working, few hours a day trading, few hours a day on the phone…and some how tie in all the rest…

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    Hi Jaffasoft,

    mainly only ever use it to network and send data back and forth between mates computers… especially, when playing some LAN games, never have used it for wireless internet, though i know if you need to check your emails you can do that through the phones GPRS, mainly, its more of an office tool, that i cant live with out, (well.. internet.. lol), but nothing really special i do with it, its honestly like a filing cabinet for me, just holds sentive documentation and data… more of just an office work tool…

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    Hi Guys,

    be understandable, that this is a property forum… and that there are going to be many negative thoughts and ideas to share trading… i honestly do believe, with a little bit of share trading knowledge and placing the better odds in your favour… share trading, will quickly make you forget about property….

    the reason most people fail in share trading, is simply they havent got the psychology, discipline, money mangement and neither have they planned, their entry and exit strategy for the particular trade… (planned there trade)

    these people, are who we call gamblers (or pigs, because they squeal, when they get burnt or lose money…)

    share trading, does allow you to minimise your risk and you are in control… its up to you to pull the trigger… if you cant do any of the above, you should not play the market, ask experience traders, and they will tell you how low risk share trading is….

    and if you were at the money expo today… (and i did enjoy the debate about shares vs property… at the expo…) you should have seen the debaters for the share team, vs the property team debates, how they put the property gurus back into there corner, and the property gurus also admitting that property is not a good investment at the moment…

    id hate to admit it, but, if you look at the richest people in the world, they own the biggest share holdings positions… (billions were talking)

    honestly, i dont know any property guru or investor, whos properties into the billions…

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    Hi Guys,

    lol… thats me… and that pic is so old… (dam i put on some weight too…) thanks guys… though i like to keep quite about it… :)

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    Hi Jaffasoft,

    i dont have a computer, but do have a laptop and have it running 24/7, do take everywhere for example, travelling, going round to a mates places… main uses are for email and trading… (and for forums… lol)

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    Hi Yack,

    i respect your comments, and that is perfectly fine… (thanks for sharing some information about yourself…) though if you look at the richest people in the world… Warren Buffet and Bill Gates, they have more money in stocks than in property… were talking here billions, and if we still look down the list of richest people in BRW magazine… many of them, own substainal stock portfolios… even there own business the richest people in the world, have them listed on the stock exchange… look at the Chicago and Australian Exchange, you will definetly notice that the richest people in both countries have there Corporations, companies listed…

    ie… this does stand to have some meaning

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    you also have the added option for, long, medium, short term position trading, you can be a systematic trader, intraday trader, day trader, or even an investor… and then theres technical analysis vs fundamental analysis or a full service broker…

    property doesnt offer as much range, possibilty and options to suit someone’s needs… as what the share and equity market can offer…

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    Hi Kay,

    Originally posted by kay henry:

    sis said:

    “i would have to give the thumbs that share trading personally for me, beats a weekly wage…”

    So you’re either using rents or wages to play with, right?

    no (rent money goes to mortgages, work money goes to the credit card, and daily expenses), actually i have quite a very large portfolio of shares, its another one of my multiple streams of income

    It also depends on what kind of weekly wage you’re talking about. I mean, are you saying you can sit at home, tap a few buttons on a keyboard, and mae a thousand every week? No losses?

    many people get confused by this, but in the stock market, there are such things as, stop losses, resistance sell/buy, straddle sell/buy, profit target, trailing losses/volume, conditional ordering and so on…

    as for losses, there cut short… im not a buy and hold in shares, i use a system, set of rules (entry & exit strategies), and reposition my self daily.

    another thing too with shares is… there is a system such as win/loss (divided by) profit/loss, to work out your overall net position…

    Just wins all the time? Even rene rivkin didn’t win all the time. Are there days or weeks when you might lose, and so have no wage equivalent at all?

    not wins all the time, actually i lost $1300, the other day, but that didnt kill my overall position, my other share holding positions, were able to recover that net loss, and that protected capital was able to be reinvested, back into the market immediately…

    bad day at the track (oops, stockmarket)… I just lost 5k.”

    this cant be truly said on shares, if you follow a set of rules, a system, money management and are discipline, losses can be shorten, whilst protecting the capital and have it reinvested back into the market immediately… another thing too with shares is, there is more diversification (more sectors and different forms of leverage.. (options, short selling, futures, CFD’s, warrants, bonds, mutal funds, manage funds, margin lending, FX) and these forms of derviates, are available to you, and you can invest at your own level of comfort zone.

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    Hi Guys,

    just a note on Caltex, currently holding and still holding… and with oil prices at and all time high… great stock to be dancing with…

    but to oppose your question Yack…

    Am I better off devoting my attention to property or shares?

    this is a personaly question to each individual, but depending, on your trading technique, style and system… i would have to give the thumbs that share trading personally for me, beats a weekly wage, property is great for capital gains, and cashflow (& for leverage), but when it comes down to excitment and which one has less work… Shares by far…

    but personally i would rather have $1m worth of shares than property….

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    but wait…

    lets say, once property is out of reach and affordability for the majority for most people…

    … then who is going to continue to buy property and to push the prices of property up…. ?

    with this in mind, any person who has a few dollars saved up can enter into the share market, and use this as there investment vehicle…

    this is just food for thought… (property prices, begin to peak and affordability is almost out of reach… where do you go to make some profits)

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    Hi Gatsby,

    glad you like, the analogy… [biggrin]

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    Hi Del,

    gulity.. but to several different forums… lol…

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