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  • Profile photo of Steve McKnightSteve McKnight
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    Howdy,

    The things you describe are pretty normal for a residential property manager to charge.

    From my experience:

    Management: 6 to 10% of rent
    Leasing: 1 month’s rent
    Inspections: $100 to $200 per inspection

    The cost, while important, is incidental to the service. A good manager – one who is diligent, attentive and responsive (proactive not reactive) will be a godsend.

    Be careful not to make the common mistake of buying a premium property, but choosing a budget property manager. As I have said and written many times: money follows management. A good property manager will turn a bad property good, and a good property great. A bad manager will turn a great/good property to poor or worse.

    All the best,

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    Hi and thanks for your post.

    I’ll keep this brief: the more complex the deal, the fewer buyers you’ll attract.

    Right now I see you’ve got two paths:

    Eat Your Own Cooking

    If you’re comfortable with the risk, use your own resources — sell or refinance another asset — to generate the cash you need. It’s usually quicker, cheaper, and gives you full control.

    Cash In & Cash Up

    Otherwise, sell and move on. Take the best price you can get as is. Sure, you might leave some equity on the table, but you’ll gain certainty and free up capital to use elsewhere.

    JV partners or creative structures are theoretically possible, but in practice they add complexity, cost, and risk — usually more trouble than they’re worth unless you have a track record and a database of interested people.

    Bottom line: don’t overcomplicate it. Either back yourself with your own money, or simplify and exit.

    Bye,

    Steve

     

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    And further to my last email, to provide more clarity, imagine:

    Sam has a $500,000 mortgage on his home.

    Scenario 1 – Sam has a mortgage offset account that has $200,000 in it. Sam uses that $200,000 to finance the purchase of an investment property. Is the interest deductible?

    No – the money in the offset account is savings, so using it for investment purposes is not borrowing. Because the initial loan is for private purposes, the interest will not be deductible.

    Scenario 2 – Sam has a line of credit against the mortgage. While the facility is $500,000, he currently owes, $300,000. Sam uses $200,000 of that facility to buy an investment property. Is the interest deductible?

    Yes – the line of credit is a debt facility, so the borrowing for investment purposes would be deductible. However, Sam will need to apportion the interest between private and investment purposes according to the use of the funds.

    Sam has a $500,000 mortgage on his investment property.

    Scenario 1 – Sam has a mortgage offset account that has $200,000 in it. Sam uses that $200,000 to finance the purchase of another investment property. Is the interest deductible?

    Yes – although the money in the offset account is savings, and using it for investment purposes is not borrowing as such, because the initial loan is for investment purposes, the interest will be deductible.

    Scenario 2 – Sam has a line of credit against the mortgage. While the facility is $500,000, he currently owes, $300,000. Sam uses $200,000 of that facility to finance the purchase of an investment property. Is the interest deductible?

    Yes – the line of credit is a debt facility, so the borrowing for investment purposes would be deductible. Sam would be wise though to keep track of what portion of the loan and interest relates to what property.

    Scenario 3 – Sam has a line of credit against the mortgage. While the facility is $500,000, he currently owes, $300,000. Sam uses $50,000 of that facility to finance the purchase of a private car. Is the interest deductible?

    No– the interest on the portion used for private purposes (i.e. interest on $50k) would not be deductive. However, the remainder of the interest (i.e. interest on $300k) would be as the loan was for investment purposes.

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    Profile photo of Steve McKnightSteve McKnight
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    Thanks for your post. Here’s an example to flesh out the learning:

    Investment property $1m
    Loan @ 60%: $600k
    Advance repayments: $50k (paid off loan, not offset)
    Current loan balance: $550k

    Redraw $50k for personal
    New loan balance: $600k

    Under the example above, $550k would be deductible, whereas $50k would not.

    The main point is this:

    To determine deductibility:
    1/ The money must be borrowed and not withdrawn from an offset account; (unless the money was transferred out of the mortgage to the offset to make a payment); and
    2/ The money is used for investment purposes.

    The asset used as security is irrelevant.  Some people think because it is a loan over an investment property, it will always be deductible. Not so.

    Bye,

    – Steve

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    Hi there,

    You’re in a solid starting position but before jumping to a strategy, the key is to define your investment objective. What outcome are you aiming for: more cash flow, early retirement, long-term wealth building?

    As I teach, “the clarity of your outcome determines the clarity of your input.” Right now, you’re mixing lifestyle and investment goals, which can muddy your thinking. Your apartment is a lifestyle asset—you’re living in it—but you’re trying to treat it like an investment. The key is to separate emotion from economics.

    Option 1—selling and leasing back—may give you capital and borrowing power, but you may find the capital you receive is compromised by the lease terms you require. That is, perhaps an owner-occupier would pay more than an investor?

    Option 2—renting it out and living elsewhere—I worry about the impact on your borrowing ability, and if the cashflow is negative, the impact on your ability to scale. The goal is to reduce risk and increase serviceability which this seems to contradict.

    Option 3—waiting—may feel safer, but opportunity cost can be real. Procrastination is not a great destination.

    Your next step? Do the numbers. Start with your end goal, work backwards, and look for investments that are profitable from day one. Focus on income-producing assets—not just capital growth. Don’t invest to impress—invest to succeed.

    If you can make it to Melbourne on the 16th August, I will be running a 1-day seminar which would be beneficial for you to attend. Details will be released soon.

    Bye,

    – Steve

     

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    Jenny,

    You have two approaches: buy assets and get outcomes; or set outcomes and buy assets.

    The former means you get whatever the asset provides. The latter is more strategic and ensures you buy assets that will deliver an outcome that is congruent with your goals. I have always preferred the latter, although when I started investing, I did the former.

    The questions to answer are this: what’s the plan, where are we now, what’s the gap, how do we bridge it.

    All the best,

    – Steve

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    I have a 1-day seminar spot locked in for Sat 16th August in Melbourne, which I plan to call the 2025 Property Summit. I haven’t worked out speakers and syntax yet, but I expect a spot on commercial property to be definite.

    I will send out more information in due course.

    – Steve

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    Hey Chief,

    Long time, no hear! Glad to see you are still patrolling here to keep things safe.

    Some thoughts about each option:

    1/ I don’t see this working for residential where gross yields are 3% and lower. For commercial it might work, but the cap rate would have to be higher than the interest rate, and then how would you repay the principal. And look out if the property ever went dark (lost the tenant and another couldn’t be found). This is high risk.

    2/ Yes, possible with a multi-trust structure, but the property would have to be positive cashflow. Reach out to Chris Berry at http://www.PropertyInvestingFinance.com

    3/ A business can be as simple as setting up a structure with an ABN. I don’t think you need a trading business, do you? Again though, borrowing 100% brings us back to #1.

    Unfortunately, the old way is still the best way…

    Make more (money) – by swapping time and/or ideas for money;

    Manage (money) better – through careful control of expenditure;

    Multiply (money) faster – through strategic investing that considers risk-to-return (most money, quickest time, least risk, lowest aggravation);

    Add meaning – give your money a purpose by adding a non-financial dynamic for why you want to make, manage and multiply that creates a compelling need that will help overcome the temptation of living the high-consumerism lifestyle promoted by marketeers who profit from your spending.

    Take care,

    – Steve

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    Thank you for your post.

    The question here is does the shoe shape the foot, or does the foot shape the shoe?

    I prefer the latter, so I would make a list of what operational requirements are needed, and then set a budget to see what you can source.

    ChatGPT might be able to provide some guidance for a checklist. Here’s what my prompt returned:

    ***

    Choosing the right warehouse for your storage and distribution business is crucial for optimizing logistics, reducing costs, and improving service levels. Here’s a detailed checklist to guide your decision-making process:

    1. Location
    Accessibility: Check proximity to major highways, ports, and rail lines.
    Market Reach: Consider how well the location serves your target markets.
    Labor Market: Ensure there is a suitable workforce available nearby.
    Safety and Security: Evaluate the safety of the area, including crime rates.
    2. Size and Space Requirements
    Storage Needs: Assess the square footage needed based on inventory levels and SKU counts.
    Scalability: Consider whether the space can accommodate future growth.
    Layout Efficiency: Ensure the layout supports efficient inventory flow from receiving to shipping.
    3. Infrastructure
    Loading Docks: Ensure there are enough docks and that they are compatible with your vehicles.
    Ceiling Height: Higher ceilings can accommodate more vertical storage.
    Floor Capacity: Check if the floor can support heavy goods and equipment.
    Utility Services: Assess the availability and capacity of electrical, water, and telecommunications services.
    4. Technology Integration
    Warehouse Management Systems (WMS): Determine if the warehouse can support advanced WMS or other inventory tracking systems.
    Automation: Consider the potential for integrating automation and robotics.
    Security Systems: Look for modern security features including cameras, alarms, and access controls.
    5. Cost Considerations
    Lease Terms: Understand the lease duration, costs, and any included amenities or services.
    Operational Costs: Consider utility costs, maintenance expenses, and property taxes.
    Insurance: Check what insurance is required and what it covers.
    6. Legal and Compliance
    Zoning Regulations: Ensure the warehouse is zoned for your intended use.
    Building Codes and Compliance: Verify that the warehouse meets local building codes and safety standards.
    Environmental Assessments: Consider any necessary environmental inspections or risk assessments.
    7. Additional Features
    Climate Control: Needed if you store perishable or sensitive goods.
    Waste Management: Check the facilities for waste disposal and recycling.
    Expansion Options: Look for options within the facility to expand or modify spaces.
    8. Logistics Services
    Third-Party Logistics (3PL) Providers: Evaluate the availability and cost of outsourcing logistics services.
    Transportation Links: Check the availability of local transportation services for distribution.
    9. Visit and Inspect
    Site Visits: Always visit the site multiple times at different times of the day.
    Consult Experts: Consider hiring a logistics consultant or a supply chain expert to evaluate potential sites.
    10. Negotiation and Final Decision
    Negotiate Terms: Work with a real estate expert to negotiate lease terms.
    Decision Metrics: Create a scoring system based on your priorities to help make the final decision.
    By following this checklist, you can systematically assess each potential warehouse and ensure that the selected site aligns with your business requirements and growth strategies.

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    Ah Dear Danger Mouse,

    I see the trap hasn’t caught you yet! Long may that be the case!

    Some thoughts for you:

    Buyer Advocates

    Go in with your eyes open. The usual ways BAs role is that they lock up the deal, then try to shop it around. I would want to know if they have an immediate buyer. Beware the re-trade too at the end of DD (where they significantly drop their offer after eating up the DD time). Six months is a long time mate.

    Subdivision

    I’m inclined to explore this option with a town planner by setting aside a limited amount as a feasibility budget. That will also shed more light on whether the BA route is likely or not. You’re playing with profit here, so the more you know, the better informed you’ll be.

    Building

    Unless you are an experienced developer / builder, the $300k profit is not worth the extra risk, and aggravation, in my opinion. That said, I think the SW Brissie optics are strong until the Olympics.

    Long live the mouse!

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    Some general observations:

    1/ Sometimes council officers talk about what they’d like, which is different to what the regulations specifically require;

    2/ A chat with an independent town planner about issues, and how to overcome them, is usually money well spent on deals worthy of closer due diligence;

    Bye,

    – Steve

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    Is it physically possible? It sounds so!

    Is it legal? That will depend on compliance with planning and building permitting.

    Is it financial? That will depend on the cost vs. return.

    Is it smart? That’s your call as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It sounds like a hard way to make money to me re: a lot of aggravation. Also, it sounds like an active asset which isn’t normally something suitable for SMSFs (i.e. SMSFs are not allowed to run businesses).

    All the best,

    – Steve

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    Hello Aaron,

    I don’t see why not, provided it is on an arm’s length basis.

    For instance, Z Company P/L can rent from X Unit Trust, notwithstanding they are separate but related entities.

    That said, it would be wise for you to speak to your accountant / lawyer about this to ensure the terms are appropriate.

    Good luck!

    – Steve

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    Hi,

    First, I would disconnect the cameras so your privacy is not at risk.

    Next, was the camera includes in the sale contract as a fixture? If so, I would go back to the lawyer / firm who did the conveyancing and seek their assistance. If not then I’m not sure where you stand.

    All the best,

    – Steve

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    Hi,

    In the circumstance you describe the benefit of the tax shield from depreciation does seem marginal, especially if the extra income could justify higher borrowings.

    Not everyone has a tax-free beneficiary to distribute to, and hence the depreciation tax shield is more beneficial.

    Some time ago I wrote an article on the deception of depreciation. Have a read of it here:

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/depreciation/

    Bye,

    – Steve

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    Hi,

    Any vendor finance sale will need legal advice and careful structuring to consider stamp duty (will vary by state) and income tax implications.

    I haven’t seen a loan in Aus that is assumable, but they may be out there. Typically larger commercial property deals are financed by commercial paper (such as rolling commercial bills), rather than a loan like a home loan. These are unlikely to be assumable.

    Buying the company will still likely trigger income tax and stamp duty implications, but again, legal advice is warranted.

    If you don’t proceed, you are welcome to flick the details of the deals to me to see if it is of interest in the new fund I have established.

    Bye,

    – Steve

     

     

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    Hello George7,

    You have identified an issue in your due diligence, and you are right to want to try to manage and mitigate it.

    However, it appears you cannot do as the vendor will not wait.

    If it were me, I would go under contract with a general 45 or 60 day due diligence clause and seek to do my own investigations. Perhaps you want to point to some other need for the clause though, perhaps to get your finance sorted? Once under contract I would approach a town planner for assistance.

    Assuming you cannot cover the risk, you have to assess your risk appetite to proceed (or not) with the known risk. Does the upside outweigh the downside by enough of a margin for the risk. You also want to be paid extra for the risk.

    Bye,

    – Steve

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    Howdy Stargazer. Member since 2002 eh? Thanks for sticking with me :-)

    The problem here is that you are letting the asset lead the outcome. That is, you don’t know what to do because you don’t seem to have a clear picture in your head about what you want your assets to achieve.

    Here’s what I wrote in prep for a Money Magnet podcast yesterday:

    • If you don’t have a then, you won’t have a why
    • If you don’t have a why, when becomes based on urgency and you become reactive rather than proactive.
    • Without a why and when, what or how is unclear, and so you will gravitate back to your parental and societal programming
    • When it comes to investing, that is likely to be good assets, in good locations, in the hope of a good profit.

     

    • Set a ‘Then’
    • Identify ‘Why’
    • Clarify ‘When’
    • Let the Then, When and Why determine the What and How

    In summary, the right thing for you to do depends on what you want to achieve.

    Final comment – make sure you come to my upcoming 1-day seminar. I will explain more about this at the event in the context of ‘making your money count’.

    Bye,

    – Steve

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    Hi,

    This is an interesting question and I would have thought something would be legally possible, I just don’t know how. As it is a legal matter, it is best to seek legal advice. You may also like to look into reverse mortgages (do your due diligence) as a way of unlocking equity.

    I imagine there will be taxation consequences of co-owning, and stamp duty issues. Again, best to talk with a lawyer.

    Bye,

    – Steve

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    Thanks for the post.

    I’m sad to learn your professional network is telling you something can’t be done when mine time and time again says it can be (and I continue to use and apply it).

    I’m not sure how you reconcile that, and I’m over repeating myself over and over and over again on this issue.

    If you can’t,  you can’t. If you can, you can. Find a way or make a way.

    Bye,

    Steve

     

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