There is a golden rul of tax planning which is not to buy appreciating assets like property in a company.
This is because companies cannot claim the 50% discount for CGT.
Re: Trusts
As Trustee you decide who gets money, so it doesn’t matter how many beneficiaries there are… at the end of the day you decide who gets what, and if you only distribute to yourself then so be it.
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You currently have a home on which the interest is not deductible and you want to work out a way where it would be?
Well, one option is you could set up a new entity (such as a Trust) and then sell the property to your trust. Of course, the major hurdle with this would be the stamp duty and re-working the finance on the property.
Please note though with this option there is no principal place of residence expemption re: capital gains tax (CGT). This means that while you get to claim a tax deduction for the costs>income, when you sell you also have to pay CGT.
Still, in the new entity, you could be charged rent (it would have to be on a commercial basis) and then the interest would be deductible. Depending on the $$$, it may or may not result in a -ve geared outcome.
If your question stems from the fact that you own two houses – one your home and the other an investment property… then you could just switch them over so that your home is no longer your principal place of residence.
Provided you rented out your old home then you would probably be eligible to start claiming as a tax deduction the interest and other costs (rates, repairs etc.) too.
However the same costs on your new home (old investment property) would cease to be deductible since they are now of a private and domestic nature.
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Thanks for your post and welcome to the Property Investing.com community.
The great power in property is your ability to leverage (ie. borrow usually 80%+ meaning you can get good returns since your capital outlay is low).
If you don’t leverage then your returns will be much lower as a % (since your denominator is higher), but higher in terms of $ since you don’t have a loan repayment.
Given your income issues, I’d recommend:
1. Seeing whether traditional lenders will still consider your application on the presumption you have so much equity in your home and this counts as good security!
2. Consider a non-conforming lender (such as liberty) who are potentially less concerned about the income issue. Perhaps contact a mortgage broker (do it online if you live out of town) to find out more.
Hope this has helped.
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I am just putting the finishing touces on a new product called Wealth Guardian that outlines the different structuring options when it comes to property investing. I expect this will be available by mid-late February.
It is difficult to explain trusts easily, since it is a confusing and complex topic.
Still, I’ll try to give an overview…
There are two main parties to a trust.
Because a trust is not a separate legal entity, a Trustee is the person or entity that is charged with the responsibility of buying and managing the assets of the Trust
The beneficiaries are the people or entities for whose benefit the Trust has been established.
When you buy property in a trust you do so in the name of the Trustee on behalf of the Trust.
The major benefit of a Trust is that it allows for control of an asset without actually owining it.
For example, setting up a Trust where you are the Trustee and beneficiary means you control it (as the Trustee) and also share in the distribution of profits (as a beneficiary).
The disadvantages of a Trust are that it is complex to understand and also expensive to create and administer (in accounting fees!).
If you’d like to know a lot more, then I’d encourage you to think about investing in Wealth Guardian when it is available as it is a 60 page workbook with an audio component too.
Watch this space for more info when it comes to hand.
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I have no idea about that area, but tell me three things:
1. How much does it cost to rent an average 3Br home?
2. What is the current median house price?
3. What has been the movement in population over the past 10 years?
You purchased something fitted out as a biotech lab that you want to turn into a bar, except this plan has been harpooned by the “body corporate” – presumably a committee of other owners of suites / offices on the remaining levels of the building?
I’ll proceed on the basis this is a correct assumption.
I think that you need to spend time trying to find out why there is opposition to the bar idea and then look to create a win-win outcome that results in the fears associated with the rejection being overcome.
On another level… what lessons have you learned about buying investment property from this experience? I’m sure you have a lot of valuable insight that would benefit the forum!
Hope to hear from you soon.
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I have an article in front of me from The Age 14/09/02 titled “Things are looking up in the Latrobe Valley, thanks to a new coat of paint”
It begins:
quote:
“The refurbishment of former SEC houses, which previosuly defaced streetscapes in the troubled Latrobe Valley, has sparked a modest property boom.”
If you are interested in the area then I recommend reading this article… you can buy it from The Age website (click this link).
My thoughts echo the article. Traralgon is going ahead very well, Morwell is flat but has promise… Moe, well, it will be carried forward by the growth in the other two.
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From my limited renovation experience I’d say this:
1. You can usually get an immediate discount (even if you are not a tradesperson) by setting up an account with the local stores rather than paying cash at the counter. This has two benefits… 1. You can save your cash and 2. You get a discount []
2. If there is an absolute must when it comes to renovating it is a new front door. Don’t go for the cheapest option here.
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1. Can you increase the current rent (ie. sublet areas, value add etc)?
2. Can you negotiate a lower purchase price?
3. What guarantee do you have that the tenant will renew?
4. What’s VO’s mean? Outgoings? These should be paid by the tenant?
5. Banks will uusally only lend b/w 60 and 70% on commercial… can you afford the deposit + closing costs?
6. What is you minimum required return?
That’ll do for starters.
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I am an advocate of both wraps and lease options in the right circumstance.
The difference b/w the two techniques is that with a wrap the is actually a contract to buy the property… in a lease option there is only a right to buy, rather than an obligation to buy.
The different nature of the contract creates the advantages and disadvantages.
Wrap
1. Get First Home Buyers Grant (timing dependant on what State you invest in) as a deposit making it a great low down strategy.
2. You have a buyer rather than a tenant so you can legally pass on all ownership costs.
3. You own the property until the last payment is made.
Lease Option
1. Might be easier to get finance as you are just having a normal tenant relationship.
2. Can still recover part of your cost as an option fee.
3. You own the property until the right is exercised at which point you are usally cashed out.
Hopefully you can see it is ‘horses for courses’. If your client has enough of a deposit or is able to get the FHOG then I’d go the wrap.
If not then I’d go the lease option.
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I doubt that your friend is / will rip you off… but it’s likely to be a good way to start his project to have you sign on (from his perspective) since he will need some pre-sales for both his marketing and also to get financing for the project.
Tread carefully and don’t let friendship or greed (or hype) get in the way of cold are facts… and read the old editions of the newsletter before you do anything!
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Thanks for your post and welcome to the PropertyInvesting.com community.
In respect to general things to look our for, I’d strongly recommend you read my 10 Laws of property investing success that have been outlined in editions of Insider to date (the monthly newsletter).
Specifically though, you raise a good topic of converstaion about the concept of delayed equity.
These units that you mention you could buy for $460k today and might be worth as much as $700k when they are completed in 2005. Plus, being in Vic. you will also save on stamp duty.
I have no experience in buying this kind of property but I have the following concerns:
1. If you make a mistake, then given the numbers involved, it is likely to be as expensive one. If you want to invest in property I’d encourage you to start with smaller deals and then work your way up.
2. I have friends you purchased a property on St. Kilda road several years ago under the same kind of promise and recently took possession. The property is only just worth what they paid, and if they sold, less than what they paid when you factor in sale costs.
3. I believe that the type of tenant you’ll attract will be a transitory tenant, rather than the more stable family tenant. This adds to the risk in the investment.
4. Interest rates are more likely to go up than down in the medium term, which means that buy the time you settle your likely repayments will be higher than they would be now. Be sure that any financial data you inspect allows for this.
5. About your friend… I don’t want to jump the gun here, but is your friend paid a commission when you buy? ie. is he a sales agent? Hmmmm. Something doesn’t seem quite right about what you have written and smells a bit fishy.
6. Ask for some kind of comparatives with other projects in the area to see if the projections on other deals worked out as planned. There is a huge difference between a budget and reality.
Ok… it’s clear that you need some sort of plan before you do anything []
Work out what it is that you want (and try not to be greedy). Seriously, for $25 a good place to start is the Fast Track tape (available from the resources area). Even if you don’t want +ve cashflow it talks about how to find an area that would be a good place to invest.
I’m concerned by the numbers you are talking about… there seems to be too much risk for someone beginning.
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Steve McKnight
P.S. Congratulations on the new addition to the family.
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